SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves

[RoadRunner79]

I'm not slut shaming, I'm murder shaming. If men were the ones who became pregnant, I would have ended up having an abortion too. Doesn't make it right. As a teen I got a girl pregnant and drove her to get an abortion. I literally consider myself a murderer for that. I don't try to excuse myself. If we hadn't done that, there'd likely be a 36-yo human being walking around today, but that person never got to see the light of day.

So not only are you a complete asshole, you're a hypocritical one.

I don’t think you are using the word hypocrite correctly.

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So is this witch hunt and attempted character assasination to avoid the topic?

[Minimalist]

Yes, I judge the taking of an innocent human life.

Unless the cops gun them down for a broken tail light, I suppose.

I suspect you are a fetus-hugger who doesn't give a shit about them after they are born.  Lots of that shit running around loose among so-called xtians.

[LadyForCamus]

So not only are you a complete asshole, you're a hypocritical one.

I don’t think you are using the word hypocrite correctly.

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So is this witch hunt and attempted character assasination to avoid the topic?

Sorry, but Alpha made it personal by telling Tres she should keep her legs closed, which was unwarranted, unnecessary, hypocritical, and mean-spirited.  Why don’t you ever call your fellow Christians our for being unChrisitian-like?

[John V]

I'm not slut shaming, I'm murder shaming. If men were the ones who became pregnant, I would have ended up having an abortion too. Doesn't make it right. As a teen I got a girl pregnant and drove her to get an abortion. I literally consider myself a murderer for that. I don't try to excuse myself. If we hadn't done that, there'd likely be a 36-yo human being walking around today, but that person never got to see the light of day.

So not only are you a complete asshole, you're a hypocritical one.

Nope - I'm applying the same judgment to myself as I apply to anyone else.

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@Alpha

Did you tell the mother of your aborted baby that she should have kept her legs closed?  Or do you reserve that kind of talk for strangers on the internet?

I didn't tell anyone here to "keep her legs closed." When she made an argument based on her uterus, I made a response in like kind. It was a mild comment for this forum, and I included an emoji to show it was only semi-serious. You're just blowing it out of proportion to make an ad hominem because you don't have a better response to my positions.

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Unless the cops gun them down for a broken tail light, I suppose.

Your supposition is incorrect.

I suspect you are a fetus-hugger who doesn't give a shit about them after they are born.  Lots of that shit running around loose among so-called xtians.

Your suspicion is incorrect. Every month there are draws out of my bank account for 4 or 5 (I've lost count) of those programs where you sponsor a poor child, and a draw for a local women's shelter.

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Sorry, but Alpha made it personal by telling Tres she should keep her legs closed, which was unwarranted, unnecessary, hypocritical, and mean-spirited.

Bullshit. She brought her own uterus into this. I responded accordingly. You're just grasping at an ad hominem/red herring at this point because you don't like me calling abortion what it is - murder.

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Why are you here?

In part to point out cheap tactics like this red herring.

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Everybody just needs to stay out of my uterus. Problem solved. As I've said before, if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a holy sacrament.

-Teresa

LfC, was not "my uterus" the comment which originally made things personal?

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@Alpha

Did you tell the mother of your aborted baby that she should have kept her legs closed?  

That's an extremely personal (and intentionally inflammatory most likely) comment. But, since I'm the one that brought that episode up in the first place, it's fair game.

Now if you'd just apply that principle consistently...

[LadyForCamus]

So not only are you a complete asshole, you're a hypocritical one.

Nope - I'm applying the same judgment to myself as I apply to anyone else.

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@Alpha

Did you tell the mother of your aborted baby that she should have kept her legs closed?  Or do you reserve that kind of talk for strangers on the internet?

I didn't tell anyone here to "keep her legs closed." When she made an argument based on her uterus, I made a response in like kind. It was a mild comment for this forum, and I included an emoji to show it was only semi-serious. You're just blowing it out of proportion to make an ad hominem because you don't have a better response to my positions.

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Unless the cops gun them down for a broken tail light, I suppose.

Your supposition is incorrect.

I suspect you are a fetus-hugger who doesn't give a shit about them after they are born.  Lots of that shit running around loose among so-called xtians.

Your suspicion is incorrect. Every month there are draws out of my bank account for 4 or 5 (I've lost count) of those programs where you sponsor a poor child, and a draw for a local women's shelter.

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Sorry, but Alpha made it personal by telling Tres she should keep her legs closed, which was unwarranted, unnecessary, hypocritical, and mean-spirited.

Bullshit. She brought her own uterus into this. I responded accordingly. You're just grasping at an ad hominem/red herring at this point because you don't like me calling abortion what it is - murder.

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Why are you here?

In part to point out cheap tactics like this red herring.  

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Everybody just needs to stay out of my uterus. Problem solved. As I've said before, if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a holy sacrament.

-Teresa

LfC, was not "my uterus" the comment which originally made things personal?

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@Alpha

Did you tell the mother of your aborted baby that she should have kept her legs closed?  

That's an extremely personal (and intentionally inflammatory most likely) comment. But, since I'm the one that brought that episode up in the first place, it's fair game.

Now if you'd just apply that principle consistently...

Not any less personal than you telling Teresa to keep her legs closed. Did you really expect respectful sympathy and empathy for your little story after talking to people here like that?

[downbeatplumb]

You spelled "Pro CHOICE" wrong.

OP spelled "Pro LIFE" wrong.

Why is it the Pro-life people seem to be in favour of death penalties and carrying guns?
They seem inconsistent in their stance.

[LadyForCamus]

So not only are you a complete asshole, you're a hypocritical one.

Nope - I'm applying the same judgment to myself as I apply to anyone else.

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@Alpha

Did you tell the mother of your aborted baby that she should have kept her legs closed?  Or do you reserve that kind of talk for strangers on the internet?

I didn't tell anyone here to "keep her legs closed." When she made an argument based on her uterus, I made a response in like kind. It was a mild comment for this forum, and I included an emoji to show it was only semi-serious. You're just blowing it out of proportion to make an ad hominem because you don't have a better response to my positions.

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Unless the cops gun them down for a broken tail light, I suppose.

Your supposition is incorrect.

I suspect you are a fetus-hugger who doesn't give a shit about them after they are born.  Lots of that shit running around loose among so-called xtians.

Your suspicion is incorrect. Every month there are draws out of my bank account for 4 or 5 (I've lost count) of those programs where you sponsor a poor child, and a draw for a local women's shelter.

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Sorry, but Alpha made it personal by telling Tres she should keep her legs closed, which was unwarranted, unnecessary, hypocritical, and mean-spirited.

Bullshit. She brought her own uterus into this. I responded accordingly. You're just grasping at an ad hominem/red herring at this point because you don't like me calling abortion what it is - murder.

You don’t even know What my position is on abortion so, what are you talking about?  I disagree with about 99% of my fellow atheists on the subject.

[John V]

Not any less personal than you telling Teresa to keep her legs closed.

OK. As I said, when a person brings up a personal issue, that issue is then fair game for the discussion. I apply that principle consistently. You wield it selectively.

Did you really expect respectful sympathy and empathy for your little story after talking to people here like that?

No. Likewise, Tres shouldn't have expected her comment to be off-bounds because it was personal. Further, there were many ways she could have phrased that same sentiment in general terms without saying "my uterus."

You don't get to make an unassailable statement by making it personal. You don't accept that from opponents, yet you try to wield it as a weapon in your favor.

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You don’t even know What my position is on abortion so, what are you talking about?  I disagree with about 99% of my fellow atheists on the subject.

OK, what's your position? Do you agree that abortion is murder?

[LadyForCamus]

Not any less personal than you telling Teresa to keep her legs closed.

OK. As I said, when a person brings up a personal issue, that issue is then fair game for the discussion. I apply that principle consistently. You wield it selectively.

Did you really expect respectful sympathy and empathy for your little story after talking to people here like that?

No. Likewise, Tres shouldn't have expected her comment to be off-bounds because it was personal. Further, there were many ways she could have phrased that same sentiment in general terms without saying "my uterus."

You don't get to make an unassailable statement by making it personal. You don't accept that from opponents, yet you try to wield it as a weapon in your favor.

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You don’t even know What my position is on abortion so, what are you talking about?  I disagree with about 99% of my fellow atheists on the subject.

OK, what's your position? Do you agree that abortion is murder?

I’m sure we’re going to disagree on the details, but yeah, I think at a certain point in gestation it becomes immoral to abort.  I’m not sure where that line should be drawn, but I think it’s a discussion definitely worth having.  I believe it is morally wrong, for example, for a woman to walk into a clinic at 20 weeks pregnant and ask for an abortion simply because she doesn’t want the baby. Now, I know that most late term abortions aren’t for that reason, and we should make exceptions for instances  where the fetus is no longer viable or the mother’s life is in immediate danger, but I would support 20 week bans that fall outside of those circumstances.  At 20 weeks we are no longer talking about a microscopic ball of undifferentiated cells.  We are talking about a living creature with a developing central nervous system that can hear, taste, feel anxiety and comfort, and possibly (I know it’s disputed) feel pain.  Just because a living thing isn’t fully conscious doesn’t mean it’s always morally right to end its life.  I think most of us would say it’s immoral to euthanize, say, a pet hamster just because you didn’t want it anymore and it became an inconvenience.  Why should anyone be allowed to treat a human baby that way?

[Amarok]

Nope abortion is not murder . It's killing . But it's not murder . And yes you did launch a personnel attack on someone . Your little tale of self deprecation does not alter that.

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I didn't tell anyone here to "keep her legs closed." When she made an argument based on her uterus, I made a response in like kind. It was a mild comment for this forum, and I included an emoji to show it was only semi-serious. You're just blowing it out of proportion to make an ad hominem because you don't have a better response to my positions.

She said stay out of the uterus . You snarked (it's a joke now that you have been called) to not let guys fuck her (which is essentially the same as telling her to keep her legs closed ) And no that comments neither mild nor have we  blown it out of proportion . And we have already decimated your hypocrite ass so there is no need for ad homs . You said it . It was shaming . Deal with it