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Dumb As A Bag of Hair
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RE: Dumb As A Bag of Hair
(April 21, 2018 at 1:54 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: He has the plans, plan A plan B etc, and reacts, he knows all possible outcomes, and reacts. This is what Quran shows, despite the supposed scholars saying otherwise.

So now your god is neither omniscient (since he doesn't know what will happen) nor omnipresent (since we can take actions he doesn't know about beforehand) nor omnipotent (since he has to prepare "plans" in case things do not proceed as planned).

Just what the hell is it about god that is worthy of worship? As you describe him, he sounds just like some barfly holding forth at the local pub.
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RE: Dumb As A Bag of Hair
(April 28, 2018 at 8:20 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(April 21, 2018 at 1:54 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: He has the plans, plan A plan B etc, and reacts, he knows all possible outcomes, and reacts. This is what Quran shows, despite the supposed scholars saying otherwise.

So now your god is neither omniscient (since he doesn't know what will happen) nor omnipresent (since we can take actions he doesn't know about beforehand) nor omnipotent (since he has to prepare "plans" in case things do not proceed as planned).

Just what the hell is it about god that is worthy of worship? As you describe him, he sounds just like some barfly holding forth at the local pub.
According to the ethnocentric Middle Eastern desert Arab religious fairy tale a person must worship Allah if he wants to be rewarded after death with eternal life in paradise.  Otherwise Allah will send the person to eternal torment in hell fire.  The message applies to everyone.  

According to the Old Testament Yahweh doesn't reward people with eternal life in either heaven or in hell.  He just beats the hell out of you while you're living. 

According to the New Testament the Yeshua (Jesus) character will reward a person with eternal life in the golden cube called New Jerusalem or he will toss the person in the lake of fire.  But Yeshua said that his promise only extends to the Isralites.  No one else need apply.    So a clever writer muddied the waters and threw in a clause about how Gentiles can get eternal life.  He never did say how they could get through any of the pearly gates reserved for the Israelites.
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RE: Dumb As A Bag of Hair
(May 2, 2018 at 8:25 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(April 28, 2018 at 8:20 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: So now your god is neither omniscient (since he doesn't know what will happen) nor omnipresent (since we can take actions he doesn't know about beforehand) nor omnipotent (since he has to prepare "plans" in case things do not proceed as planned).

Just what the hell is it about god that is worthy of worship? As you describe him, he sounds just like some barfly holding forth at the local pub.
According to the ethnocentric Middle Eastern desert Arab religious fairy tale a person must worship Allah if he wants to be rewarded after death with eternal life in paradise.  Otherwise Allah will send the person to eternal torment in hell fire.  The message applies to everyone.  

According to the Old Testament Yahweh doesn't reward people with eternal life in either heaven or in hell.  He just beats the hell out of you while you're living. 

According to the New Testament the Yeshua (Jesus) character will reward a person with eternal life in the golden cube called New Jerusalem or he will toss the person in the lake of fire.  But Yeshua said that his promise only extends to the Isralites.  No one else need apply.    So a clever writer muddied the waters and threw in a clause about how Gentiles can get eternal life.  He never did say how they could get through any of the pearly gates reserved for the Israelites.

Now, let's get a set of people who believe in each of these cases and let them duke it out with kid gloves. I for one won't be watching it, for the simple reason that Harry Potter is actually God.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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RE: Dumb As A Bag of Hair
(May 2, 2018 at 8:31 pm)Fireball Wrote:

Quote:Now, let's get a set of people who believe in each of these cases and let them duke it out with kid gloves. I for one won't be watching it, for the simple reason that Harry Potter is actually God.

A god is only needed if you want something from him.  If a person doesn't want anything a god might be able to provide then he doesn't need a god.
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