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RE: Do you have the courage to commit suicide in case if terminal disease?
April 10, 2018 at 10:58 pm
(April 10, 2018 at 10:05 pm)Macoleco Wrote: (April 10, 2018 at 8:42 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: It would depend on the disease. One non-terminal illness I would definitely off myself for is blindness.
I find that a little extreme.
I agree with without sight the quality of my life would significantly drop, but I dont know if I would kill myself.
I just can't see (no pun intended) any point to life (for me) without sight. I'm a nerd who spends nearly all of his spare time in front of a computer. Sure, I could learn alternate ways to read but I'm also a visual/graphics oriented person. I just can't conceive of life without sight as anything but a purgatory.
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RE: Do you have the courage to commit suicide in case if terminal disease?
April 10, 2018 at 11:14 pm
(April 10, 2018 at 10:58 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: (April 10, 2018 at 10:05 pm)Macoleco Wrote: I find that a little extreme.
I agree with without sight the quality of my life would significantly drop, but I dont know if I would kill myself.
I just can't see (no pun intended) any point to life (for me) without sight. I'm a nerd who spends nearly all of his spare time in front of a computer. Sure, I could learn alternate ways to read but I'm also a visual/graphics oriented person. I just can't conceive of life without sight as anything but a purgatory.
One doesn't need eyesight to contribute to the advancement of, say, mathematics. https://www.biography.com/people/leonhar...r-21342391
Whether you are Euler's equal in some other discipline is up for you to decide. I personally am a visual learner, and am not certain how I would proceed with my life if I lost my vision. I have as hobbies since I retired (and before)- woodcarving, woodworking and metalworking, and maintenance, repair and upgrades to an old truck that I use to tow a (6000 pound) camping trailer. This doesn't include what I do on line, which is a lot. I'd still be able to use Braille on the wife, though. 
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RE: Do you have the courage to commit suicide in case if terminal disease?
April 10, 2018 at 11:52 pm
(April 10, 2018 at 10:08 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The Church teaches to respect life from conception to natural death (including your own) on the premise that life is sacred
And what about in cases when they don't care about human life?
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(April 10, 2018 at 10:49 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: If all else fails, hopefully I'll still have access to the drugs I need myself.
Yeah I heard that the vocation most prone to drug abuse are actually doctors because they have an acces, altough I guess most people think it's the Show business because they get all the publicity.
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RE: Do you have the courage to commit suicide in case if terminal disease?
April 10, 2018 at 11:56 pm
(April 10, 2018 at 11:52 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (April 10, 2018 at 10:08 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The Church teaches to respect life from conception to natural death (including your own) on the premise that life is sacred
And what about in cases when they don't care about human life?
https://www.aclu.org/blog/reproductive-f...p-catholic
http://www.refinery29.com/2015/10/95984/...-tied-aclu
https://www.njadvocates.com/2012/06/06/n...e-gay-man/
(April 10, 2018 at 10:49 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: If all else fails, hopefully I'll still have access to the drugs I need myself.
Yeah I heard that the vocation most prone to drug abuse are actually doctors because they have an acces, altough I guess most people think it's the Show business because they get all the publicity.
I only abuse bottles of paracetamol.
And that's only because it's a soft, wimpy drug that should get a life.
Seriously, what a loser!
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RE: Do you have the courage to commit suicide in case if terminal disease?
April 11, 2018 at 12:03 am
Patch parties are a good idea for the terminally ill.
You stock up on pain relief patches and invite all your family and friends over for a goodbye party.
Upon arrival each person puts a patch on you, thereby making no one person responsible for your death.
After everyone leaves you go to bed and never wake up.
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RE: Do you have the courage to commit suicide in case if terminal disease?
April 11, 2018 at 1:30 am
Why is nobody mentioning the a gun? Nothing more reliable than spraying your brain on the wall. I would do it like that. The only problem is overcoming the ugly the sensation of putting the gun on your head when about to pull the trigger.
Drugs sounds painful. And the helium method is risky, or so I heard. If you do it incorrectly there is a chance your lungs will implode.
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RE: Do you have the courage to commit suicide in case if terminal disease?
April 11, 2018 at 1:31 am
The drug method isn't painful. It's basically just falling asleep peacefully.
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RE: Do you have the courage to commit suicide in case if terminal disease?
April 11, 2018 at 1:33 am
(April 11, 2018 at 1:31 am)Lutrinae Wrote: The drug method isn't painful. It's basically just falling asleep peacefully.
And what drugs, exactly?
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RE: Do you have the courage to commit suicide in case if terminal disease?
April 11, 2018 at 3:49 am
I'm kind of the mirror opposite to this question. I have several conditions, but none of them are terminal. For the last 10 years or so, my greatest (and often only) desire has been to kill myself. I've been desperately trying to find coping mechanisms so that I don't, because I know that my passing would have a big negative effect on at least a few people (and my pets).
I'm extremely proud of myself that I have managed this. I've come a long way, and in all that time, there was only one brief episode where I was in serious danger of actually finishing myself off. Who knows, maybe one day I'll actually want to live for myself. My life is on a positive track at the moment.
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RE: Do you have the courage to commit suicide in case if terminal disease?
April 11, 2018 at 5:18 am
(April 11, 2018 at 1:30 am)Macoleco Wrote: Why is nobody mentioning the a gun? Nothing more reliable than spraying your brain on the wall. I would do it like that. The only problem is overcoming the ugly the sensation of putting the gun on your head when about to pull the trigger.
Drugs sounds painful. And the helium method is risky, or so I heard. If you do it incorrectly there is a chance your lungs will implode.
I've seen a few people with a thick scar line down the centre of their face and the two sides of their face are mismatched, particularly the eyes.
Guns are not as reliable a method of suicide as everyone thinks and quite often not instant.
Also quite horrible for the person that finds you.
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