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Pew Research
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RE: Pew Research
Losty Wrote:Wow 56% believing in the god of the Bible is a lot lower than I would’ve expected.

That probably has to do with slightly less than half of adults under 30 believing in the God of the Bible, as they are a large enough group to bring the average down considerably. The older the member of the sample, the more likely they are to believe in the God of the Bible.
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#12
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Some believers will believe Jesus judges them:

John 5 (KJV)
22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son

and others won't believe that Jesus judges them:

John 8 (KJV)
15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.


So, we have 2 Jesus's (at least) too. Which one is the 'right' one ?? We need a better poll to delineate the range of Scripture's deities and their relative popularities amongst the pew warmers.
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#13
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Quote:That cuts both ways. Wanting to escape feelings of shame in this world and the prospect of judgement in the next could also be considered a kind of crutch.
Good thing were not doing that despite what christian propaganda will say . And 56 ,86, 95, It makes no difference .

(April 30, 2018 at 11:53 am)mh.brewer Wrote:
(April 30, 2018 at 11:07 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

That cuts both ways. Wanting to escape feelings of shame in this world and the prospect of judgement in the next could also be considered a kind of crutch.


Gosh, ya got me. I'm just soooooooooo bad.
Yup the only reason i don't accept wooters nonsense is so i can (insert evil debauchery i as an atheist must do ) or an act i should feel guilty over because it disagrees with wooters holy book .  Tongue 

So no the concept of both ways is a Christain myth .

Y'all just wanna sin  Tongue



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(April 30, 2018 at 10:59 am)Losty Wrote: Wow 56% believing in the god of the Bible is a lot lower than I would’ve expected.

Progress.
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(April 30, 2018 at 11:07 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(April 30, 2018 at 11:04 am)mh.brewer Wrote: If they need that mental crutch they are welcome to it.

That cuts both ways. Wanting to escape feelings of shame in this world and the prospect of judgement in the next could also be considered a kind of crutch.

But you have no proof that a "next" world or some sort of afterlife even exists. All you've done here is assert a claim from your own opinions.
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(April 30, 2018 at 11:07 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(April 30, 2018 at 11:04 am)mh.brewer Wrote: If they need that mental crutch they are welcome to it.

That cuts both ways. Wanting to escape feelings of shame in this world and the prospect of judgement in the next could also be considered a kind of crutch.

The anecdote to shame is humility, and there's nothing less humble about believing that this great universe, that has a diameter of 91 billion light-years and has existed for almost 14 billion years, was created explicitly for us.
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(April 30, 2018 at 11:58 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Some believers will believe Jesus judges them:

John 5 (KJV)
22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son

and others won't believe that Jesus judges them:

John 8 (KJV)
15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.


So, we have 2 Jesus's (at least) too.  Which one is the 'right' one ??  We need a better poll to delineate the range of Scripture's deities and their relative popularities amongst the pew warmers.


Ahh... but don't you see.... it depends on your particular translation or interpretation of the Word of God. That infallible word of God can be changed to mean whatever the reader wants it to mean.
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#19
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I wonder how many peoples beliefs (or lack thereof) are actually informed by wish-fulfillment?  

Further, I wonder what percentage of people who think that others beliefs (or lack thereof) are actually informed by wish fulfillment think so because their beliefs are so informed?

From the standpoint of christian mythology the proposition that anyone is an atheist because they want to keep sinning is ludicrous. All will sin. Believers will sin, atheists will sin. We don;t need justifications to sin..and the status of our belief does not alter either our capacity or our propensity to do so.

From the standpoint of a lucid human being..it fares no better. I like to smoke weed and don't want to go to jail. This doesn't lead me into thinking that cops and courts are non-existent. I couldn't believe that no matter how high I got. IMO, no matter what angle it's approached from....the proposition is impossible to maintain unless a person is a real dumb asshole.
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Its deists, wiccans and even very liberal Christians could fall into that catagory. All kinds of people could.
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