Civility subsection suggestion

[Catholic_Lady]

No problem. And no, what im suggesting here is not a debate forum. I specified as much on the OP.

That's what I gather... a normal forum section where the rules impose civility, friendliness, etc... much like the intro section.
That would have the benefit of believers feeling better, as the evil atheists wouldn't jump to insults.

Of course, this would apply to theists too... they can't go on there and be assholes. And the topic could span beyond just religion related. It could be related to politics, philosophy, morality... or otherwise any of the more divisive, controversial topics where sometimes people are hesitant to try to talk about because they don't want to deal with the hostility or shit slinging.

The premise is to encourage honest discussion of differing view points.

[pocaracas]

That's what I gather... a normal forum section where the rules impose civility, friendliness, etc... much like the intro section.
That would have the benefit of believers feeling better, as the evil atheists wouldn't jump to insults.

Of course, this would apply to theists too... they can't go on there and be assholes. And the topic could span beyond just religion related. It could be related to politics, philosophy, morality... or otherwise any of the more divisive, controversial topics where sometimes people are hesitant to try to talk about because they don't want to deal with the hostility or shit slinging.

The premise is to encourage honest discussion of differing view points.

For what it's worth, I support this.

[Catholic_Lady]

Of course, this would apply to theists too... they can't go on there and be assholes. And the topic could span beyond just religion related. It could be related to politics, philosophy, morality... or otherwise any of the more divisive, controversial topics where sometimes people are hesitant to try to talk about because they don't want to deal with the hostility or shit slinging.

The premise is to encourage honest discussion of differing view points.

For what it's worth, I support this.

Thanks!

And again, it wouldn't just be beneficial to the theists here... but to any of the atheists who have opinions that deviate from the norm/majority of AF and those who like honest discussion of opposing views.

[brewer]

Don't think it would ever work. When it comes to religion/sex/politics/humor/pooping, what CL finds civil and what I find civil I'm sure are two different things.

Anyone got a working definition for all things civil and/or not? Or will it turn into "this does not feel civil", report, report, report?

[Jackalope]

Don't think it would ever work. When it comes to religion/sex/politics/humor/pooping, what CL finds civil and what I find civil I'm sure are two different things.

Anyone got a working definition for all things civil and/or not? Or will it turn into "this does not feel civil", report, report, report?

I suspect the latter, and as we have to consider and debate every single report regardless of it's merit, I'm generally not going to be supportive of suggestions like this that create extra work for the staff, particularly when the extra work is going to consist of a lot of wrangling over highly subjective matters such as this.

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I've opened a staff discussion thread on this to poll the staff as to where they stand on it.

[Angrboda]

I have to wonder who would use such a forum. People first coming to the forum aren't going to be aware of the differences that exist. People who have already been here awhile apparently have already made their peace with the way things go. Who is this proposed forum sub supposed to be for?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I like the idea.  The three interested members will assemble in the room so designated.

Boru

[Catholic_Lady]

I have to wonder who would use such a forum. People first coming to the forum aren't going to be aware of the differences that exist. People who have already been here awhile apparently have already made their peace with the way things go. Who is this proposed forum sub supposed to be for?

It would be for pretty much anyone who wants to have honest discussion about topics that may spark controversy (religion, politics, philosophy, morality, etc), without having to comb through the shit slinging and irrelevant posts that are just there to mock the OP.

This would be beneficial to the theists, the atheists who have opinions that deviate from the norm, and anyone who enjoyes honest discussion of opposing views and exchange of ideas.

The point is to encourage diversity and encourage discussion of opposing views - making this place overall less like an echo chamber.

Perhaps when a new member joins, they can get an automatic PM telling them about the introduction subforum and about this particular subforum. So then they would know about it.

[The Grand Nudger]

If a superstition is mockably silly, the honest way to discuss this isn't by avoiding that discussion.  I love that the suggestion forum has become a place to air christian grievances about people calling our superstitions™ silly in all of the ways that they are silly, and attempting to enforce the notion that an honest discussion couldn't be one that's offensive to them, personally.

On behalf of god, as an appointed representative, ofc.

I can't see how blasphemy rules are going to produce diverse viewpoints or discussions. Maybe believers should stop being snowflakes? There's my site suggestion.

[Foxaèr]

I can understand CL's point of view.

However, I have experience what she is suggesting. It is not pretty.

There is a similar system over at religiousforums.com.

A long time ago daring to post in a thread you were not allowed to post in could get you in real trouble. With advancements in coding, they've managed to alert you that you're attempting to post in the wrong area so you don't make that mistake.

I honestly don't want this forum to become that place.