Creationism and Ignorance

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Americans say what they're supposed to say on those polls. Doesn't mean they believe any of it.

[Edwardo Piet]

[vulcanlogician]

[Edwardo Piet]

Like I said, for every 50 scientists who think evolution is false 2450 think evolution is true... so Alpha isn't contradicting anything you have provided, VL, he's just citing something completely irrelevant.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

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Americans say what they're supposed to say on those polls. Doesn't mean they believe any of it.

I guess you might have a point about the general efficacy of polls, but as far as Pew Research Center goes, they are fairly well-reputed.
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Not relevant to what I said. Conducting a poll of liars will result in a result based on lies no matter how rigorous the protocols are.

[Edwardo Piet]

Not relevant to what I said. Conducting a poll of liars will result in a result based on lies no matter how rigorous the protocols are.

I don't see why people would lie about that.

Although your objection is why I object to world happiness surveys. But then, it's no surprise I am confused by the idea that anyone even really knows how happy they are, or what "happiness" is supposed to even mean.

As far as I'm concerned pleasure makes sense and is concrete, and pain makes sense and is concrete... but emotions seem purely psychological to me. But then, that's probably because I'm a little odd and have terrible interoception . . .

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Not relevant to what I said. Conducting a poll of liars will result in a result based on lies no matter how rigorous the protocols are.

I don't see why people would lie about that.

Although your objection is why I object to world happiness surveys. But then, it's no surprise I am confused by the idea that anyone even really knows how happy they are, or what "happiness" is supposed to even mean.

As far as I'm concerned pleasure makes sense and is concrete, and pain makes sense and is concrete... but emotions seem purely psychological to me. But then, that's probably because I'm a little odd and have terrible interoception . . .

American Christians say what they're supposed to say, regardless of what they believe.

[FatAndFaithless]

[vulcanlogician]

[Amarok]

In this book are the testimonies of fifty men and women holding doctorates in a wide range of scientific fields who have been convicted by the evidence to believe in a literal six-day creation.

Accept when you examine their credentials most of them have no relevant credentials and almost none of them have any practical experience in those relevant fields. People have already tried this bullshit . Their is no serious decent amount among experts in relevant fields of the fact of evolution an earth and a rejection of a young earth .

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having the credentials does not mean they act like scientists . When dealing in creationism . For instance I know of D. Russell Humphreys and yes he does legitimate work as long as it does not conflict with his religious beliefs . When it does scientific objectives goes right out the window and he becomes a religious apologist.