DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Angrboda]

MK, it's funny you should mention the giraffe.  It has one spectacular example of crappy design, a laryngeal nerve that takes a ridiculous detour to get to where it's going.

If that's the work of a "designer," I'm not impressed.

Oh man, I wasn't using giraffe necks as proof. I was using it as proof that text books teach simple examples of evolution, like a giraffe neck developing over time to be taller.

And they don't dare to even mention irreducible complexity of systems and make us think how to solve those issues. And it's obvious why. There is no solution to irreducible complexity. 

It proves design in many respects because of a paradox.

The only thing it proves is that you don't recognize the logical fallacies in your own arguments. Which explains a lot of things.

[sdelsolray]

Poster MysticKnight attempts to rescue poster CDF47.

Funny stuff.

[The Grand Nudger]

They have a common fantasy, and a common inability.

[Minimalist]

There is no solution to irreducible complexity.

Of course there is.  It's bullshit invented by religitards to prop up their impotent god.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity

In the 2005 Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial, Behe gave testimony on the subject of irreducible complexity. The court found that "Professor Behe's claim for irreducible complexity has been refuted in peer-reviewed research papers and has been rejected by the scientific community at large

Put down the koran and go read some science books.

[downbeatplumb]

MK, it's funny you should mention the giraffe.  It has one spectacular example of crappy design, a laryngeal nerve that takes a ridiculous detour to get to where it's going.

If that's the work of a "designer," I'm not impressed.

Oh man, I wasn't using giraffe necks as proof. I was using it as proof that text books teach simple examples of evolution, like a giraffe neck developing over time to be taller.

And they don't dare to even mention irreducible complexity of systems and make us think how to solve those issues. And it's obvious why. There is no solution to irreducible complexity. 

It proves design in many respects because of a paradox.

You are getting stupider by the day. What has happened to you! You used to be cool.

[Mister Agenda]

And they don't dare to even mention irreducible complexity of systems and make us think how to solve those issues. And it's obvious why. There is no solution to irreducible complexity. 

No example of 'irreducible complexity' presented so far has been able to stand up to reasonable scrutiny. So far, a possible evolutionary path has been elucidated for every single so-called 'irreducibly complex' feature of a living organism. Not only is there a solution within the framework of biology and organic chemistry, we have a good idea of what that solution is.

There are Muslims who accept evolution, you know. There is nothing in your religion that requires you to take the Genesis story so literally. The 'people of the book' have a wonderful metaphor for evolution at their fingertips (God raised humans from dust being a metaphor for evolution from microbes to everything else, including humans), but too many of them would rather reject science rather than try to reconcile it with their religious beliefs.

[downbeatplumb]

And they don't dare to even mention irreducible complexity of systems and make us think how to solve those issues. And it's obvious why. There is no solution to irreducible complexity. 

No example of 'irreducible complexity' presented so far has been able to stand up to reasonable scrutiny. So far, a possible evolutionary path has been elucidated for every single so-called 'irreducibly complex' feature of a living organism. Not only is there a solution within the framework of biology and organic chemistry, we have a good idea of what that solution is.

There are Muslims who accept evolution, you know. There is nothing in your religion that requires you to take the Genesis story so literally. The 'people of the book' have a wonderful metaphor for evolution at their fingertips (God raised humans from dust being a metaphor for evolution from microbes to everything else, including humans), but too many of them would rather reject science rather than try to reconcile it with their religious beliefs.

There is the problem that evolution can discard things. So it may be that every part is needed now but doesn't mean that there werent extra bits that evolution discarded.

Evolution is not one way.

[The Grand Nudger]

@MA
That's the tragic part of the whole bit.  If we wanted to take magic book as metaphor, theres no need to deny the reality of biology...and if we wanted to take magic book literally..all of this biology is just plain wrong...including those bits required to make ID about something in the first place.

Genes? LOLno, god didn;t use genes to create us, he used a magic spell. Heredity? LOLno...the colored stick theory of animal husbandry.

[Mystic]

And they don't dare to even mention irreducible complexity of systems and make us think how to solve those issues. And it's obvious why. There is no solution to irreducible complexity. 

No example of 'irreducible complexity' presented so far has been able to stand up to reasonable scrutiny. So far, a possible evolutionary path has been elucidated for every single so-called 'irreducibly complex' feature of a living organism. Not only is there a solution within the framework of biology and organic chemistry, we have a good idea of what that solution is.

There are Muslims who accept evolution, you know. There is nothing in your religion that requires you to take the Genesis story so literally. The 'people of the book' have a wonderful metaphor for evolution at their fingertips (God raised humans from dust being a metaphor for evolution from microbes to everything else, including humans), but too many of them would rather reject science rather than try to reconcile it with their religious beliefs.

Alright, if you are confident, why not a set up a one on one debate on this with me?

I don't mind changing my stance if proven wrong.

[The Grand Nudger]

You should work on being more honest with yourself, lol.