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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 10:06 pm
(November 15, 2018 at 9:52 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (November 15, 2018 at 9:42 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: LMAO.
So there are "thrones" "outside" this universe. What a stupid thing to say. I suppose he has his little doggie sitting by the throne.
You have no evidence that space-time exists anywhere other than INSIDE this universe.
IF you were really a engineer, you would know, that "outside" is a spatial reference, and is meaningless with respect to an environment without proven space-time.
There is not one shred of evidence there is any god. What we observe, (shootings in churches, fires that kill innocent babies) is EXACTLY what one would expect to see, if there were no gods.
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No, there are times where He chooses to step back and see what happens. For instance, He let Adam name the animals.
LOL. Your god is SO stupid, it doesn't even know what to make for a wife for Adam.
"Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals. But for Adam no suitable helper was found"
So they were looking, (ie wife try-outs) ... kinky.
BTW, your god is supposed to be omniscient. Dumbass. He already KNOWS what's going to happen. No need to step back. He KNEW Adam would fall. He's an evil god. Even KNOWING the fall was coming, he chose to allow it, and all the suffering that ensued. Your cult is SO stupid.
Evil is being allowed to run its course for some time.
(November 15, 2018 at 9:52 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Impossible if it's all knowing.
If it's not all knowing, it's not all powerful.
He is both.
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Both those AND fictional.
That is really impressive.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 10:10 pm
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 10:32 pm
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(November 15, 2018 at 9:58 pm)no one Wrote: It can't be both! Not sure you understand what all knowing is.
He knows all of space-time including every thought (intentional and un-intentional). He even knows all there is to know about the infinite heavenly realm (described as paradise according to Jesus).
(November 15, 2018 at 10:06 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Quote:No, there are times where He chooses to step back and see what happens. For instance, He let Adam name the animals.
If he's "making choices", then before the choice, he doesn't know what he's going to do, and is not omniscient.
"Making choices" is a linear, temporal concept. It appears your deity's environment REQUIRES time.
If it exists in a temporal environment, and requires it, who created what this deity needs, by definition.
He is and always was. He knows all and He is all powerful. He does make choices and judgments on the razors edge.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 10:37 pm
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The last time I looked at this thread it was 200 PAGES ago. I did not look long ago. Why.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 10:38 pm
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(November 15, 2018 at 8:39 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (November 15, 2018 at 8:19 pm)Grandizer Wrote: I get that. What you're not getting is that it's more likely under evolution.
I just guess we would both expect it under our positions.
(November 15, 2018 at 8:23 pm)Amarok Wrote: A convenient excuse to explain away the observation . In other words Designed is again whatever the IDiot wants it to mean .
In other words everything no matter what counts as design . Thus nothing counts as evidence of design . Because you can always appeal to mysterious intentions .
Everything here was designed and constructed by the Creator.
Replies like this one to what Tiz said make it glaringly obvious that you are a troll.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 10:40 pm
(November 15, 2018 at 10:32 pm)CDF47 Wrote: He is and always was. He knows all and He is all powerful. He does make choices and judgments on the razors edge.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 10:48 pm
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It can't be both! Not sure you understand what all knowing is.
CDF47:
He knows all of space-time including every thought (intentional and un-intentional). He even knows all there is to know about the infinite heavenly realm (described as paradise according to Jesus).
Exactly. It knows all that has ever happened. Or ever will happen. So, it knew from the beginning the of beginning that Adam and Eve would "fall". It knew from the very start, that they would pick from the tree of knowledge, that it so brilliantly put smack dab in the middle of that perfect garden. It knew that people and most of the life on Earth would have to be destroyed when it set out on it's miraculous 7 day construction plan. So, your lord is either a scumbag prick, or it's just fucking retarded!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 10:48 pm
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(November 15, 2018 at 8:56 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, the Creator exists on a throne outside this universe.
Okay, maybe POE is a more accurate description of this particular chew toy.
(November 15, 2018 at 8:06 pm)CDF47 Wrote: That's simply how the Designer decided this would work.
Lol, oh? Well, consider me convinced! How could I possibly resist the, “that’s just the way it is”, argument?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 10:58 pm
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Quote:He is and always was. He knows all and He is all powerful. He does make choices and judgments on the razors edge.
"Always was" requires that "he" exists in time. He can't have created the environment he, by definition "always" required, concurrently.
If he's making choices,
1. he requires time
2. doesn't really know the outcome if he has to "weigh" the options in the choice.
You're flunking Philosophy here.
You're SO dumb, and out of your depth, I'm starting to feel sorry for you.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 15, 2018 at 11:06 pm
(November 15, 2018 at 10:58 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Quote:He is and always was. He knows all and He is all powerful. He does make choices and judgments on the razors edge.
"Always was" requires that "he" exists in time. He can't have created the environment he, by definition "always" required, concurrently.
If he's making choices,
1. he requires time
2. doesn't really know the outcome if he has to "weigh" the options in the choice.
You're flunking Philosophy here.
You're SO dumb, and out of your depth, I'm starting to feel sorry for you.
He existed before this universe existed. He exists outside this universe as He transcends the universe He created.
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