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Bare minimum for belief in Christianity.
May 4, 2018 at 8:29 pm
(This post was last modified: May 4, 2018 at 8:34 pm by ignoramus.)
Guys, THAT other ID thread got me thinking.
Let's say you don't want to deny any scientific facts. About anything. (Why would you anyway?)
But you still need that extra life that baby Jesus has on offer?
Is that possible? Call it "caffeine free diet Christianity" or whatever...
In reality, almost all Christians use modern technology, believe in medical cures, disregard everything in the bible that conflicts with their modern "good person" lifestyle etc,
so their beliefs are strictly of a philosophical nature anyway.
Can these people still be called Christians? If THEY call themselves Christians, then they ARE Christians. Who are we or other Christians to judge them?
Every Christian cherry picks, so there must be lots of pots and kettles about. Especially between competing schisms.
EG, belief in heaven might sound silly but is it technically breaking any rules of the cosmos?
Maybe shoving your beliefs in the gaps of science technically does not need or involve any mental gymnastics ...because ...well, we just never know, do we? 
I think the god of the gaps WAS invented for theists to sleep easy at night. Just like in a court of law, YOU CAN'T PROVE ME WRONG, THEREFORE NOT GUILTY of believing anything false.
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RE: Bare minimum for belief in Christianity.
May 4, 2018 at 8:32 pm
Christians call themselves that for any old reason now.
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RE: Bare minimum for belief in Christianity.
May 4, 2018 at 8:33 pm
This is all it takes.
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RE: Bare minimum for belief in Christianity.
May 4, 2018 at 8:39 pm
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The minimum belief is a belief in Christ. It's a title, not a name. All else is negotiable. -CHRIST-ians, not luddites. Though, obviously, there's some overlap in practice.
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RE: Bare minimum for belief in Christianity.
May 4, 2018 at 8:53 pm
Well, since Google is God. Here is Google's definition of the adjective, of what it means for someone or something to be Christian:
"relating to or professing Christianity or its teachings."
So to be Christian is to be relating to or professing Christianity or its teachings.
That begs the question of what Christianity is. I'll see what Google's opinion absolute 100% correct view is on that later.
First, the noun of "Christian". What is a Christian?
"a person who has received Christian baptism or is a believer in Christianity."
Same problem. So the definition of Christianity is definitely required.
Google knows all. So let's see. Google's definition of Christianity:
"the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus Christ, or its beliefs and practices."
So basically... if you are a person who is a believer in the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus Christ, or you are a person who is a believer in the beliefs and practices of said religion or you are baptised under Christianity... then you are a Christian. At least in some sense.
So I am a Christian in one sense merely because I was baptised. So let's discard that sense because there's no fucking way I am a Christian.
So, going in reverse, what about the sense of being a believer in the briefs and practices of Christianity? Well, it's when you genuinely believe in all of Jesus Christ's teachings as described in the Bible. So if you do, you're a Christian in that sense, if you don't, you're not.
The supposed problem there is that different Christians disagree over what Jesus Christ taught. I say "supposed problem" because it's not really a problem... in the sense that if you've got the interpretation right you're a Christian and if you haven't then you're not. If you're actually following what he taught then you are, and if you're not then you aren't no matter how much you think you are.
The problem is in knowing whether you're a Christian not. And that's a different problem to whether you actually are. Truth is different to knowledge.
So there you go. Step 1 in becoming a Christian: Believe that you are a Christian following the teachings of Christ Step 2: Actually correctly follow whatever Christ taught The only real step required: Actually correctly follow whatever Christ taught. No Christian identity or profession required. But this does include believing in all the miracles Jesus described and the fact that he was the son of God, and that he rose from the dead, etc... not just all the practical teachings. So yeah... I bet you Christian folks hope you got it right because identifying as Christian and believing that you believe is irrelevant. You have to actually get right what you believe in! Wrong interpretation of the teachings of Christ=not a Christian.
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RE: Bare minimum for belief in Christianity.
May 4, 2018 at 8:55 pm
minimum basic belief ??
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RE: Bare minimum for belief in Christianity.
May 4, 2018 at 8:56 pm
(May 4, 2018 at 8:55 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: minimum basic belief ??
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RE: Bare minimum for belief in Christianity.
May 4, 2018 at 8:59 pm
Needs to be Biblical.
Like incurable yaws and goiters.
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RE: Bare minimum for belief in Christianity.
May 4, 2018 at 9:00 pm
(May 4, 2018 at 8:59 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Needs to be Biblical.
Like incurable yaws and goiters.
Nah.
It can be anything from which he arises from being dead. Bullet in the head does it.
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RE: Bare minimum for belief in Christianity.
May 4, 2018 at 9:01 pm
(May 4, 2018 at 8:55 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: minimum basic belief ??
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The useless old fuck is lucky if he can come once.
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