Free gift.

[Sal]

I hear this from time to time. Grace is a free gift. All you have to do is accept Jesus into your heart. Except accepting Jesus into your heart usually means changing your life by abiding by a set of rules. When someone says "You need Jesus", they're implying you're living your life wrong. But if becoming a christian means making a drastic change in your lifestyle, then it's not really a free gift. You can't just tell Jesus you'll take the gift, and keep living in "sin", so why do people call it free?

 It is free and the Bible teaches this with no doubt. There is nothing you can do to earn salvation, to gain it is to believe in Jesus and that belief includes the desire to allow God to change you. There are no rules to abide by that will gain you salvation, it can't be bought only given as a gift. It come through God's love a love no one merits. The love of God has always been there for the unbelieving, it is you who has to receive it into your life through your belief in who Jesus is and in so doing you have chosen to be changed, that change is a part of believing in who Jesus is. Even after a person accepts Christ there will be sin in the person's life for none of us can be perfect as God is perfect, but God will continue to work with the person so that much of the sin is eliminated from the person's life.

GC

But what if I believe in Sithrak, the Blind Gibberer and the never-ending torment that the Book of Dismay promises all?

Stay alive for as long as possible.

[Whateverist]

I hear this from time to time. Grace is a free gift. All you have to do is accept Jesus into your heart. Except accepting Jesus into your heart usually means changing your life by abiding by a set of rules. When someone says "You need Jesus", they're implying you're living your life wrong. But if becoming a christian means making a drastic change in your lifestyle, then it's not really a free gift. You can't just tell Jesus you'll take the gift, and keep living in "sin", so why do people call it free?

Jesus doesn't live in the human heart.

I've checked.

Jesus doesn't live in the natural world either, they admit that much.  But don't worry.  They've concocted a supernatural zone for Jesus to live with his beardy daddy.  Also when you die a supernatural part of you will still live in there with them along with the supernatural parts of all your loved ones.

[JamieBra]

I hear this from time to time. Grace is a free gift. All you have to do is accept Jesus into your heart. Except accepting Jesus into your heart usually means changing your life by abiding by a set of rules. When someone says "You need Jesus", they're implying you're living your life wrong. But if becoming a christian means making a drastic change in your lifestyle, then it's not really a free gift. You can't just tell Jesus you'll take the gift, and keep living in "sin", so why do people call it free?

 It is free and the Bible teaches this with no doubt. There is nothing you can do to earn salvation, to gain it is to believe in Jesus and that belief includes the desire to allow God to change you. There are no rules to abide by that will gain you salvation, it can't be bought only given as a gift. It come through God's love a love no one merits. The love of God has always been there for the unbelieving, it is you who has to receive it into your life through your belief in who Jesus is and in so doing you have chosen to be changed, that change is a part of believing in who Jesus is. Even after a person accepts Christ there will be sin in the person's life for none of us can be perfect as God is perfect, but God will continue to work with the person so that much of the sin is eliminated from the person's life.

GC

 Hmm... Thats probably why I don't enjoy receiving gifts. Gods gift sounds freakin awesome until you read the fine print. His free gift has MAJOR consequences if you gracefully decline. Im good God. No thanks.  I smell a rat. The most disappointing part of gods free gift is the automatic focus shift from reality to a land of milk and honey. As a former born-again, I was focused on la la land after death as this life felt like a preview to the main attraction. Looking back,  it was not only a waste of my time but more so a waste of my mind. Enjoy the gift if you'd like to receive it, but know that it often comes with years of brainwashing and judgment. Gotta go be evil heathen now but know that now I enjoy this life because its precious.

[ignoramus]

Shit, you come out of left field Jamie! Where ya been!

Have you been lurking here the whole time?
Stick around will ya! The theists are killing us!











(with laughter)

[possibletarian]

I don't know what you are all whining about..

The bible is clear there is a cost involved. Luke 14:25-26.

25 Large crowds were travelling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

All you have to do is become self loathing.. you sinner you !

[Little lunch]

GOD - Moses, I have some commandments for you.

Moses - How much are they?

GOD - They are free!

Moses - Woohoo, great, I'll take ten.

[Foxaèr]

I just read the thread title. The contents of the original post is irrelevant. I will PM you my address so you can send me the free gift.

[Brian37]

I hear this from time to time. Grace is a free gift. All you have to do is accept Jesus into your heart. Except accepting Jesus into your heart usually means changing your life by abiding by a set of rules. When someone says "You need Jesus", they're implying you're living your life wrong. But if becoming a christian means making a drastic change in your lifestyle, then it's not really a free gift. You can't just tell Jesus you'll take the gift, and keep living in "sin", so why do people call it free?

Siri gibberish translator, "I have something I like believing, and since I like it, if you don't you are a bad person."

[Chad32]

I hear this from time to time. Grace is a free gift. All you have to do is accept Jesus into your heart. Except accepting Jesus into your heart usually means changing your life by abiding by a set of rules. When someone says "You need Jesus", they're implying you're living your life wrong. But if becoming a christian means making a drastic change in your lifestyle, then it's not really a free gift. You can't just tell Jesus you'll take the gift, and keep living in "sin", so why do people call it free?

 It is free and the Bible teaches this with no doubt. There is nothing you can do to earn salvation, to gain it is to believe in Jesus and that belief includes the desire to allow God to change you. There are no rules to abide by that will gain you salvation, it can't be bought only given as a gift. It come through God's love a love no one merits. The love of God has always been there for the unbelieving, it is you who has to receive it into your life through your belief in who Jesus is and in so doing you have chosen to be changed, that change is a part of believing in who Jesus is. Even after a person accepts Christ there will be sin in the person's life for none of us can be perfect as God is perfect, but God will continue to work with the person so that much of the sin is eliminated from the person's life.

GC

Like I said, it's not free if there's an expectation to change. Being worthy or not has nothing to do with something being free. I can give someone my truck, whether he deserves it or not, but if I expect something in return, like him living his life the way I want him to live, then it isn't free. free means no strings attached.

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I just read the thread title.  The contents of the original post is irrelevant.  I will PM you my address so you can send me the free gift.

PM me your address, and I'll leave you a present by your front door. No strings attached.

[ignoramus]

are you going to set it on fire first so he'll have to stomp on it