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Is there free will in heaven?
RE: Is there free will in heaven?
Dude, this conversation is so full of contradicting Christians that I want to castrate myself. Good thing god didn't give me that choice -- cunt.

Ha, hard c's are easier.
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
(October 26, 2011 at 1:08 am)Godschild Wrote:
(October 26, 2011 at 12:59 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote:
(October 26, 2011 at 12:56 am)Godschild Wrote: The man with the gun is giving two choices, 1st choice give me your wallet and you might live, 2nd do not give me your wallet and you will die and I will still have your wallet. The giving of the wallet is not your choice, your choice is between maybe living or you will die. The thief will have the wallet one way or the other. This in no way resembles what God offers. God ask that you either choose to have a relationship with Him, in which He will receive the love He desires, and you will live in heaven or choose not to have a relationship with Him and He does not receive the love He desires and you will live in hell. The thief gets what he desires (wallet) no matter what you choose, God only gets what He desires if you choose a relationship with Him. If you say no you do not die and God does not receive what He desires. The example of the thief is in no way comparable to the offer God gives man.

Strange how an all powerful and PERFECT being cannot get what he wants.

Doesnt sound very perfect to me.

A perfect being does not force a choice on someone He will accept the choice made, even if it does not happen to be what He desires.

Hmm..then your imaginary god is a-okay with me.

Anything else you are going to make up on the spot?
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
Likes me the way he created me as well, not in spite of my thoughts, but because of them. Good for me. It's nice to know I can always get into heaven as is.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
Not with that distracting ass avatar, you can't. That's the rule I just made up. You really have a lot in common with Mario. If 1 ups were babies, that is.
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?


I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
(October 26, 2011 at 1:12 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote:
(October 26, 2011 at 1:08 am)Godschild Wrote:
(October 26, 2011 at 12:59 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote:
(October 26, 2011 at 12:56 am)Godschild Wrote: The man with the gun is giving two choices, 1st choice give me your wallet and you might live, 2nd do not give me your wallet and you will die and I will still have your wallet. The giving of the wallet is not your choice, your choice is between maybe living or you will die. The thief will have the wallet one way or the other. This in no way resembles what God offers. God ask that you either choose to have a relationship with Him, in which He will receive the love He desires, and you will live in heaven or choose not to have a relationship with Him and He does not receive the love He desires and you will live in hell. The thief gets what he desires (wallet) no matter what you choose, God only gets what He desires if you choose a relationship with Him. If you say no you do not die and God does not receive what He desires. The example of the thief is in no way comparable to the offer God gives man.

Strange how an all powerful and PERFECT being cannot get what he wants.

Doesnt sound very perfect to me.

A perfect being does not force a choice on someone He will accept the choice made, even if it does not happen to be what He desires.

Hmm..then your imaginary god is a-okay with me.

Anything else you are going to make up on the spot?

I'm not making this up, there are always consequences to a choice.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
Yes, you are.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
(October 26, 2011 at 1:14 am)Shell B Wrote: Not with that distracting ass avatar, you can't. That's the rule I just made up. You really have a lot in common with Mario. If 1 ups were babies, that is.

OH SNAP!
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
(October 26, 2011 at 1:21 am)Rhythm Wrote: Yes, you are.

Nope. You say this when you do not have an argument against scriptures.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
You say this when you have no argument against the Havamal.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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