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Is there free will in heaven?
RE: Is there free will in heaven?
You say this when you have no argument against Optimus Prime.
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
(October 26, 2011 at 1:21 am)Rhythm Wrote: Yes, you are.

Yes he is

Tongue

(October 26, 2011 at 1:24 am)Godschild Wrote:
(October 26, 2011 at 1:21 am)Rhythm Wrote: Yes, you are.

Nope. You say this when you do not have an argument against scriptures.

I bet Thor and Woden are very upset at you right now GC - The poetic Eddas suggest such
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
I'm not going to be the sucker that argues with Optimus, that much should be known from the word go.

Woden isn't that petty. He doesnt give a shit what GC thinks. Thor on the other hand, well, he has a temper.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
I pity the fool who argues with Optimus.
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
No one knows what my view on free will is. And no one knows what my view on hell is. Thus, in order to excoriate my view on these subjects through an analogy of a gun-wielding thief, one must have the unmitigated temerity of first imposing a view on me that fits. You know who you are. My genuine appreciation to Shell for recognizing that and being more reserved.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
I can quote you as saying that hell is deserved buddy boy. I took your faith at face value for the rest. If you have a personal interpretation....well, get in line.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
Well at least you have company in the making-stuff-up-as-you-go department.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
Spare me.
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I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
(October 26, 2011 at 1:30 am)Shell B Wrote: I pity the fool who argues with Optimus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rBidCkJxo

LOL...its just something I found on youtube...LOL
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RE: Is there free will in heaven?
(December 3, 2010 at 9:05 am)Abraham3 Wrote:

In response to the OP;

I agree generally that Christians (including mself) often claim free will is responsible for man's continuous choice to reject god and perform evil.
So,what happens in Heaven? I don't know never been there, not sure I'll go there. I'll let you know when I find out.
Heaven is the ultimate reward, is it not? Best thing I could imagine, especially if you believe the only other thing available is hell.
Will they have free will there? Seems to me like it would logically follow that they would. I believe that God created us in his image, one of those attributes being the ability to discern and decide, I know of nowhere it claims we lose that in Heaven.
Could they commit evil? I suppose if they wanted to, doesn't mean they wouldn't suffer consequences of his choice.
Could they reject god? As you pointed out, Satan did from Heaven, so I see no reason why someone couldn't.


"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
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