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RE: 87% of Young Irish Vote for Abortion!
May 30, 2018 at 5:22 am
You're here talking about really extreme cases ... abortion in the case of teenagers and rape are really rare and are practically in every country allowed even in Poland ...
In fact, all these legal changes and great discussions about it's all about money ... big pharmaceutical corporations and private clinics are fighting for it and sometimes feminists ... and it's all about their own comfort which doesn't have to be bad but is it good motivation? ... and this is doesn't have to be responsible and adult ... Knowledge is needed for the whole society, we need to learn from a childhood how to live a good and responsible life, how to use our body healthily and responsibly, and at the same time enjoy life ... with respect for itself and another person. Knowledge is the basis and religion doesn't have to disturb it at all ... I'm a woman, I believe and I'm educated and I can't say that my life was without mistakes ... but I don't regret what I experienced.. I can only regret that I didn't have access to more knowledge on this topic ... but I appreciate what I've learned ... and what I'm constantly learning 
Let's take care of our younger generation ... we parents, we teachers, just we... and i hope in the future there will be no such problems.. maybe will be different problems but and over time we will get rid of them..
Anyway KNOWLEDGE ... knowledge is a treasure and abortion is only a half-measure and can turn against us ... I know a couple of women who after abortion feel wonderful but the majority I know feel worse, worthless, halfwoman and mentally destroyed ... so it's not always as good as some people think.. we can't just snap our fingers..
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RE: 87% of Young Irish Vote for Abortion!
May 30, 2018 at 5:24 am
(May 30, 2018 at 2:09 am)Whitewolf Wrote: What's mature is not getting pregnant in the first place or choosing your partners better, perhaps getting married and settling down as well. Not sexual immaturity through irresponsible sex or being a slut etc. You have no idea what it means to be a mature adult, it means discipline, valuing life. Not getting rid of it at the first sign of hardship for convenience. Abortion is a selfish immoral thing to do, and abortionists like you dehumanize the human life inside the womb by refusing to call it a baby. I can already hear the autistic screeching replies I'm going to get, muh fetus, muh clump of cells, more immature immoral arguments to devalue the life in the womb.
LOL... You sound like some hapless tw*t, who let you spray your slime near her ar*e once, upon sobering up wisely decided to sit on a coat-hanger and no one blamed her, except for f*cking you in the first place.
Did you already hear this particular screeching autistic reply? 
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RE: 87% of Young Irish Vote for Abortion!
May 30, 2018 at 5:55 am
(May 30, 2018 at 5:22 am)KittyAnn Wrote: You're here talking about really extreme cases ... abortion in the case of teenagers and rape are really rare and are practically in every country allowed even in Poland ...
In fact, all these legal changes and great discussions about it's all about money ... big pharmaceutical corporations and private clinics are fighting for it and sometimes feminists ... and it's all about their own comfort which doesn't have to be bad but is it good motivation? ... and this is doesn't have to be responsible and adult ... Knowledge is needed for the whole society, we need to learn from a childhood how to live a good and responsible life, how to use our body healthily and responsibly, and at the same time enjoy life ... with respect for itself and another person. Knowledge is the basis and religion doesn't have to disturb it at all ... I'm a woman, I believe and I'm educated and I can't say that my life was without mistakes ... but I don't regret what I experienced.. I can only regret that I didn't have access to more knowledge on this topic ... but I appreciate what I've learned ... and what I'm constantly learning
Let's take care of our younger generation ... we parents, we teachers, just we... and i hope in the future there will be no such problems.. maybe will be different problems but and over time we will get rid of them..
Anyway KNOWLEDGE ... knowledge is a treasure and abortion is only a half-measure and can turn against us ... I know a couple of women who after abortion feel wonderful but the majority I know feel worse, worthless, halfwoman and mentally destroyed ... so it's not always as good as some people think.. we can't just snap our fingers..
If it was a case of rape, then things just got more and more complicated. I didn't consider rape at all; TBH I dropped it out of the equation in my post. I can rephrase what I said to be "Should not be an option except in rape cases". An unplanned child is an economical disaster.
Last I've seen from big pharma is pure hell, so I can imagine their negative role in all of this.
9 months are enough to connect mentally to the unborn kid, like a body part, so it will be devastating for the mom. That's why I wonder why so many voted "abortion" in this poll.
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RE: 87% of Young Irish Vote for Abortion!
May 30, 2018 at 8:04 am
(May 30, 2018 at 2:09 am)Whitewolf Wrote: (May 29, 2018 at 9:28 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Naw, it's a good thing. They need to address assisted suicide next.
How? Abortion is a horrible thing.
Murdering babies is akin to terminally ill people getting mercy. Great switch there, exposed your morality. Nope, giving people choice is a good thing. It's not murder and fetuses are not babies, they are potential life at best.
I'm just fine with my morality which appears to be more enlightened than yours.
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RE: 87% of Young Irish Vote for Abortion!
May 31, 2018 at 1:18 am
(May 30, 2018 at 1:49 am)Wololo Wrote: (May 30, 2018 at 12:05 am)Godscreated Wrote: Because many starve or die of diseases that are curable, the rich first world countries are to self absorbed to help. Maybe if those who hold most of the money actually cared more about people than money many more would live.
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Yeah I agree. Christianity has a lot to answer for inculcating a "fuck you, I got mine" tribal mentality.
We do not. We are the leaders in helping the hungry and the sick, we do more than any country does, you think our tithes go to pay the preacher and building funds, wrong.
Quote:A sad day for the world and another nail in the coffin of humanity. When I see people celebrating the right to murder the unborn it makes me sick, mad and sad, what has man come to in their attempt to make the world a better place, murder was Hitlers answer, kill the unwanted. Well I have news for you, everyone is wanted by someone even if they are not born yet.
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Wololo Wrote:Yes it is awful that Hitler decided to follow his christian taught morality and oppress non christians through mass murder.
You show quite clearly why religious based moralities should have no place devising social rules.
The morality of Christians is what helps those who are in need, yes even the unborn because we care for all, unlike some of the selfish atheist I know. By the way Hitler wasn't a Christian, remember that murder is one of The Ten Commandments we are not to engage in, then I guess people like you who are biblically ignorant thinks it's okay to murder the helpless.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: 87% of Young Irish Vote for Abortion!
May 31, 2018 at 1:21 am
(May 31, 2018 at 1:18 am)Godscreated Wrote: The morality of Christians is what helps those who are in need, yes even the unborn because we care for all, unlike some of the selfish atheist I know. By the way Hitler wasn't a Christian, remember that murder is one of The Ten Commandments we are not to engage in, then I guess people like you who are biblically ignorant thinks it's okay to murder the helpless.
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Un-ironically, you state "unborn". Of course that's the truth, because who cares about the life after it's born, am I right?
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RE: 87% of Young Irish Vote for Abortion!
May 31, 2018 at 1:28 am
Don;t like abortions? Don;t have one. Problem solved.
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RE: 87% of Young Irish Vote for Abortion!
May 31, 2018 at 2:32 am
(May 31, 2018 at 1:21 am)Kit Wrote: (May 31, 2018 at 1:18 am)Godscreated Wrote: The morality of Christians is what helps those who are in need, yes even the unborn because we care for all, unlike some of the selfish atheist I know. By the way Hitler wasn't a Christian, remember that murder is one of The Ten Commandments we are not to engage in, then I guess people like you who are biblically ignorant thinks it's okay to murder the helpless.
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Un-ironically, you state "unborn". Of course that's the truth, because who cares about the life after it's born, am I right?
Christians do, I see many people that do not care in today's society, they pass their kids off to schools and the such just so they do not have to deal with them. However the Christian families I see are very much so involved with their children in many areas of life.
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RE: 87% of Young Irish Vote for Abortion!
May 31, 2018 at 8:27 am
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The vast majority of the people you see in "todays society" -are- christians.
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RE: 87% of Young Irish Vote for Abortion!
May 31, 2018 at 10:23 am
Nothing reduces the actual number of abortions than comprehensive sex education and readily available birth control Given that, it's hard to believe that anti-abortion advocates are really against abortions, since they are nearly universally against those measures.
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