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RE: Roseanne tweets better than Trump
June 1, 2018 at 1:29 pm
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(June 1, 2018 at 11:22 am)A Theist Wrote: You can kiss my ass.
(June 1, 2018 at 11:22 am)A Theist Wrote: It is a double fucking standard.
It's not. You don't know what a double standard is.
(June 1, 2018 at 11:22 am)A Theist Wrote: You may be fine with it but I don't see it the way you do.
That's cuz y'ar dumb.
(June 1, 2018 at 11:22 am)A Theist Wrote: What Samantha Bee said was vile and sexist...and I really don't believe it when you say you'd be okay with Roseanne calling someone a c*nt.
Have you ever met me before? Everyone's a cunt. I don't care if people call each other cunts. Fuck every one of you cunty cunt-faced cuntheads.
(June 1, 2018 at 11:22 am)A Theist Wrote: If she would have used that term to attack Michelle Obama you'd be screeching a different tune.
Why do think that? Firstly, no one's shrieking (speaking of sexism). Secondly, I didn't vote for Obama. I've only ever complained when people said racist things about her. You're making assumptions.
(June 1, 2018 at 11:22 am)A Theist Wrote: (Not that Roseanne shouldn't have been fired). ABC can fire whomever they want. It's not a debate.
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RE: Roseanne tweets better than Trump
June 1, 2018 at 1:43 pm
(June 1, 2018 at 1:26 pm)Shell B Wrote: (June 1, 2018 at 11:20 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Roseanne was a ground breaking comic and Samantha Bee is a talentless hack.
So what? I liked Roseanne's show and have never seen Samantha Bee do anything. What does any of that have to do with saying cunt vs. being racist?
No nothing. Just pointing it out is all. Samantha Bee is so unoriginal it hurts to watch anything of hers. I didn't watch Roseanne's show, but given that she's been tweeting racist and conspiracy stuff for the last decade, why did ABC give her a new show at all?
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RE: Roseanne tweets better than Trump
June 1, 2018 at 1:48 pm
Clearly not a double standard, Rosanne Barr made racist comments and Samantha Bee just made a vulgar comment. This is not a left right issue, this is whether or not ABC wants to be associated with Rosanne Barr.
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RE: Roseanne tweets better than Trump
June 1, 2018 at 2:12 pm
(June 1, 2018 at 1:43 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: (June 1, 2018 at 1:26 pm)Shell B Wrote: So what? I liked Roseanne's show and have never seen Samantha Bee do anything. What does any of that have to do with saying cunt vs. being racist?
No nothing. Just pointing it out is all. Samantha Bee is so unoriginal it hurts to watch anything of hers. I didn't watch Roseanne's show, but given that she's been tweeting racist and conspiracy stuff for the last decade, why did ABC give her a new show at all?
I don't know. Maybe they figured she wouldn't be blatantly racist at the height of their success? Maybe they wanted to make a cash grab before she lost her mind? Who knows?
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RE: Roseanne tweets better than Trump
June 1, 2018 at 3:01 pm
It seems that people are really more pissed at Roseanne's muslim comments than they are about her reference to the Planet of the Apes. The issue is complex and there's no clear reason why Roseanne would verbally attack a relatively low level hack such as Valerie. One of the smear tactics previously used against Valerie was that she supposedly had said something to the effect that America should become more Islamic.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/make-a...mic-quote/
That gained traction with some people because, although she was alleged to have said it before she got a federal government job, once she was in government she did venture into foreign affairs which was outside of her official job description. That pissed some people like the secretary of defense Gates off. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Jarrett So all of that was public knowledge which may have been percolating in Roseanne's brain.
Then there's the fact that she was born in Iran, which automatically makes her a muslim in some people's eyes. But she's not a muslim and claims to be Jewish, although information about her religion, if any, is scarce. https://forward.com/schmooze/135922/when...ish-roots/
As far as the Planet of the Apes is concerned she is biracial and mostly white.
"Her parents are both African-American. On the television series Finding Your Roots, DNA testing indicated that Jarrett is of 49% European, 46% African, and 5% Native American descent. Among her European roots, she was found to have French and Scottish ancestry.[5] One of her maternal great-grandfathers, Robert Robinson Taylor, was the first accredited African-American architect, and the first African-American student enrolled at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.[6]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Jarrett
Roseanne is a Jew from Utah so she's a Jim Crow baby who was never exposed to other races as a youth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseanne_Barr She mostly likely believes in the one-drop rule.
The bottom line is that unless Roseanne specifically says that she was making a racist comment I see it more as a religious attack against someone she assumed was a muslim or muslim sympathizer.
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RE: Roseanne tweets better than Trump
June 1, 2018 at 3:03 pm
Oh, let's not be silly. Everyone knows that calling a black person, no matter how white people want to say she is, an ape is racist. It's one of the oldest racist slurs there is.
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RE: Roseanne tweets better than Trump
June 6, 2018 at 2:25 pm
Hey. Looks like the Cunt was colluding, too!
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/reveale...n-meeting/
Quote:REVEALED: Ivanka connected Cohen with Russian weightlifter who offered to set up Trump-Putin meeting
Got a whole family of fucking colluders.
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RE: Roseanne tweets better than Trump
June 6, 2018 at 5:49 pm
I never saw the new show but I liked the old one when I was a kid and I had a crush on all the female actors.
Must have just been that time in my life.
I've seen a picture of that woman she tweeted about and the first thing that struck me was that she looks like an actor out of planet of the apes. Something about her jawline.
I don't normally think that when I see a black person.
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RE: Roseanne tweets better than Trump
June 6, 2018 at 8:41 pm
(June 6, 2018 at 5:49 pm)Little lunch Wrote: I never saw the new show but I liked the old one when I was a kid and I had a crush on all the female actors.
Must have just been that time in my life.
I've seen a picture of that woman she tweeted about and the first thing that struck me was that she looks like an actor out of planet of the apes. Something about her jawline.
I don't normally think that when I see a black person.
I think using it as an insult is what makes something 'true' (in this case, VJ does resemble a character from planet of the apes) racist. Because it was meant to degrade her by comparing her to an ape, it was deemed racist. Although, if you don't know the person is black, while the insult is still racist, I don't think it makes you a racist person. You need to have intent for it to reflect on you as a person, in my opinion.
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RE: Roseanne tweets better than Trump
June 6, 2018 at 9:10 pm
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Racist kids are raised by racists but often enough without any overt indicator that what they've been taught -is- racist..which leads to oh so many "is it racist if" lines of questioning.
While the desert of unintentional racists might be an amusing subject..their being unaware of their own racism does not make that racism "not-racism". Probably something we should address...since...to hear the story told, the country was suddenly infested by unintentional racists of late.
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