assisted suicide vs suicide prevention

[Minimalist]

No, because it is made up shit that some people allow to ruin their lives.

Didn't ruin mine, helped me a lot, abandoning it however almost caused me to perish both in this world and next.

Yes it has.  It's driven you nuts.

[Mystic]

Didn't ruin mine, helped me a lot, abandoning it however almost caused me to perish both in this world and next.

Yes it has.  It's driven you nuts.

How?

[brewer]

In which instance, mental or physical? I can't really give an intelligent response with no context. I don't think anyone could.

Mental

Then I try to stop them or intervene. Once it's been verified that all viable treatment options have been exhausted, and there is a consensus that no other treatment options are available (or that the individual will submit to) and the condition will never improve, then I'd let the person determine if their life is still worth living and not try to stop them. However, I doubt that I'd directly assist.

[Mystic]

There can't proof things won't improve. None what so ever.

[Amarok]

Depends suicide can be a actual desire to die or a cry for help .I think an assessment needs to be done first to find out if they really want to die.And it should be done in a safe and humane way.Otherwise we are not really respecting their wishes were allowing them to die on a false belief.

[Mystic]

Despair is from the army of ignorance unless you despair of falsehood and the deceptions, it has no reality.

They don't need society telling them it can be possible there is no hope for improvement.

[Amarok]

They can go on the most accurate data they have like with any medical matter .Asking anything else is a perfect solution fallacy .

[brewer]

There can't proof things won't improve. None what so ever.

I said consensus agreement, not proof.

[Amarok]

Despair is from the army of ignorance unless you despair of falsehood and the deceptions, it has no reality.

They don't need society telling them it can be possible there is no hope for improvement.

Good thing your not a psychologist or a doctor .Because your a quack .

[Mystic]

They is always a way out because data shows mental illness is mostly psychological with physical effects. Even twin study can be ascribed to that they both are psychologically influenced the same way.

A brief proof of this and to help you see this, is look up studies of minority orphans, they have more chance of mental illness then anyone else. This shows psychological factors weigh in more then biological.

And so the cure has to be more then biological effects of a magic pill, but really, psychologically defeating it and overcoming it ALONGSIDE medications as a helping mechanism on the effects the psychological illness has had on the brain and the real effects that happen to the brain due to the states the person has been overwhelmed by.

There is a always out, and the next step, hope is always the rational way out, never despair.

The problem with mental health system, is no one believes in us till we prove to do what was otherwise impossible in many people's eyes.

We got to facilitate hope, not the opposite.

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There can't proof things won't improve. None what so ever.

I said consensus agreement, not proof.

What will the assessment be based on? That it is probable things won't improve no matter what, when that is impossible to conclude.