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Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
#61
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
(June 17, 2018 at 4:42 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(June 17, 2018 at 4:40 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Yeah, so everything is a god, and as always which god should be valued most will vary wildly from person to person. I guess my favorite god is Mom. She's the best.

Yeah, when you don't worship God, and value many things pretty much the same, you are polytheistic.
Can't argue with that. I love many different things. Myself, my family, food, my house, and certain hobbies.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#62
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
(June 17, 2018 at 9:37 am)Kaloomi Wrote: But how about this, why not make a new religion that is about heaven and hell...

No; I see no purpose whatsoever in indoctrinating people to believe such ludicrous things.

Monotheism is also profoundly boring, religion-wise.  Even in the time before I realized that my brain was incapable of generating religious faith, I found polytheism vastly more interesting.
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#63
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
The only real reason the typical person needs with a god is that the person wants eternal life and the only way to get it is to have a deity that offers it. If a person isn't concerned about existing forever then he has no need for a god. Since I have no current desire to exist forever as some sort of ghost I have no need for any deity.
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#64
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
(June 17, 2018 at 9:37 am)Kaloomi Wrote: Problem with stuff like misogony, homophobia is.
a bunch of but sore bronies who think they know how religion should work for everyone?

Quote:Well its eternal in these books.
what is eternal?

Quote:Now you can get personally annoyed by some people if they annoy you,
you can be eternally annoyed?
Huh... no you can't.

Quote:but it is different when it is rule one in the books of salvation.
what does this mean? no book rule one is salvation.

Quote:Point taken, sheep mentality.
then why am I asking questions, or do you mean those who agree with you and the nonsense you have pouted thus far?

Quote:You get older, anxiety of death kicks in.
Jerkoff
Quote:And you get my drift whether you are Christian or muslim, hell scares you.
Jerkoff

Quote:Because its a philosophical argument that when you die if you go against god or the rules you are punished.
Ah, no. you are confusing islam and or maybe OT judaism with NT Christianity.
Christian is freedom from the law, freedom from the rules so we are no longer judged by them.

Quote:But how about this, why not make a new religion that is about heaven and hell, but saying if you go with chrisitian or islam religion it is more likely to take you towards death,
Kinda how like The bible says it is better for you to never known of me or of my atonement, than to hear the gospel and ignore it?

Quote:have a philosopher or something challenge it. Because why do they have authority over it? And that if you go away from religion of self obvious goodness towards humans then that will lead you more to death and damnation and torture. So just saying.
ROFLOL

Quote:Example, Christianity was not the first to have heaven and hell, Zoroastrianism i think was the predecessor to it, and that's a non abrahamic religion by persians.
Glob, grod... Now little sheep ask yourself how old the oldest known Zoroastrianism writings are... you will find the oldest writing come from the late 1300s. What does that mean to a non sheep? it means that even if the religion is older we do not have text older than christianity, meaning the zora's could have just copied Christianity. Hmph

So in short smart guy the religion 'maybe older' but the text you use to say the christian's copied from it is from the 1300's while the bible's roots can be sourced back to the 3/4 th century.

Quote:Only thing it lacked was "It never claimed authority of heaven and hell" meaning christian and muslim religion could scare people that if you dont believe in our religion you go to hell.
Major features of Zoroastrianism, such as messianism, judgment after death, heaven and hell, and free will have influenced other religious systems,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism
Quote: So we need a religion that says if you follow certain values against our philosophical dogma like not trying to have good intentions or that stuff like treating people who haven't done or deserved anything wrong, if you have no good intentions to try to make it right then you are going more closer to death.
what religion demand we do something wrong against people who have done nothing wrong? book chapter and verse please.
Quote:That's what we need
what you desperately need is to have a 5th grade understanding of biblical Christianity. NONE of what you said is remotly true.
Quote:Point is people will always have sheep mentality, and death anxiety is normal.
Or sheep mentality meaning they will believe anything they are tld against Christianity if it sounds right.. that means they are free to live love and hate a religion they know nothing about. that my lost friend is the true sheep mentality.

Quote:Only way to solve this is have another sheep mentality for good over the bad past of conflicts and tensions.
wrong-ong-ng (say it like a sheep would) again sport. the only way to solve a 'sheep memtality' is to demand people wake up and think for themselevs like I should you how to not just take the first lie about Christianity because it sounds right. to research and learn these thing from primary sources and not tertiary sources like commentaries andv-logs.
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#65
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
Bahai? Sihkism. I mean there are lots of non-Abrahamic monotheisms out there. But it's all pointless. I don't know why you'd think Atheists would want to create a new monotheism. A new one won't be any more true than the Abrahamic ones.
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#66
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
Bahaism is a particularly loopy sub cult of shiite islam.
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#67
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
(June 18, 2018 at 6:44 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Bahaism is a particularly loopy sub cult of shiite islam.

There's this whole Bahá'í movement happening on a particular religious debate forum, and it's ridiculous. In all honesty, it's only reason for finding such a stronghold is due to the gullibility of the members there. It's sad.
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#68
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
I didn't really know much about it, but it definitely is abrahamic. Sihkism isn't though. I guess that's the largest non-abrahamic monotheism
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#69
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
(June 18, 2018 at 6:41 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Bahai? Sihkism. I mean there are lots of non-Abrahamic monotheisms out there. But it's all pointless. I don't know why you'd think Atheists would want to create a new monotheism. A new one won't be any more true than the Abrahamic ones.

Kind of pointless to create a monotheism unless you can recruit a god to work the room.
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