Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped

[FlyingNarwhal]

I think the office he holds deserves at least a modicum of respect.  On top of that of the three examples I brought up only Colbert's insult was meant for Trump in particular.  The other two were directed at his kids.  You can make the argument that Ivanka is at least involved in politicking but Barron is a 12 year old.  There's never been this much vitriol directed at a President's family.

I also don't think it does much good for Democrats either.  I think the blatant hate pushes away your more centrist and non political voters, as well as also serving as a reason to continue to fire up the Republican base.  I think you see that reflected in his approval ratings going up.  If it keeps up I don't think the mid terms are going to look as good as the Democrats are thinking they'll be and 2020 will be a nightmare for them.

The office deserve as much respect as the system of which it is a part. A system that can put a trump in that office will only be enabled and encouraged to do more unremediated damage if it continue to be accorded a formal respect as one that functioned adaquately. Disrespecting the system now is the only chance there is to prompt the system to correct itself to the degree where it can begin to earn deserved respect again. Otherwise The formal respect it no longer deserve would simply be a shield for those who robbed it of its respectability to hide behind to while continuing to use the system to do further damage.

The system deserves disrespect? What Democracy? Voting? Because that is the system that put Trump into office. And I think a big reason for that happening, including the hidden surge of voters not seen in pre election polls, is the disrespect of that system aka the people that voted for Trump. If you think continuing down that same path is going to work well come mid terms and 2020 I would strongly urge you to reconsider.

And again I'll say, the comments that came from Samantha Bee and Peter Fonda were not directed at Trump, the office, or "the system." They were directed at his children. Where in the past has it been remotely appropriate for any previous president's family to receive that kind of rampant hatred with no consequences?

[The Grand Nudger]

Stealing children is now a legitimate way to engage in politics and diplomacy.  The genie is well and truly out of the bottle.

Poor snowflake conservitards thought that they were the only ones who;d bred stormtrooopers.  They were wrong.  That;s always the trouble with imagining that the other guy is a sniveling whining pansy.  Some of us are just biding our time..fitting in. I'm not interested in moral highground. Any piece of it I hold is by default and not through any work of mine. I wait to count coup. No shits are going to be given by me when these assholes reach the end of their 15 minutes.

[Amarok]

The office deserve as much respect as the system of which it is a part.  A system that can put a trump in that office will only be enabled and encouraged to do more unremediated damage if it continue to be accorded a formal respect as one that functioned adaquately.   Disrespecting the system now is the only chance there is to prompt the system to correct itself to the degree where it can begin to earn deserved respect again.     Otherwise The formal respect it no longer deserve would simply be a shield for those who robbed it of its respectability to hide behind to while continuing to use the system to do further damage.

The system deserves disrespect?  What Democracy?  Voting? Because that is the system that put Trump into office.  And I think a big reason for that happening, including the hidden surge of voters not seen in pre election polls, is the disrespect of that system aka the people that voted for Trump.  If you think continuing down that same path is going to work well come mid terms and 2020 I would strongly urge you to reconsider.

And again I'll say, the comments that came from Samantha Bee and Peter Fonda were not directed at Trump, the office, or "the system."  They were directed at his children.  Where in the past has it been remotely appropriate for any previous president's family to receive that kind of rampant hatred with no consequences?

The NRA attack Obama's Daughters 
https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/n...Page2.html

Fox News Attacks Obama's Daughters 
https://www.diversityinc.com/news/malia-obama-fox-news

How about Ann Coulter encouraging people to go after Obama's kids


I could go on with how many awful things were said about Bill Clinton's daughter during her dads trial .

[Cecelia]

I think the office he holds deserves at least a modicum of respect.  On top of that of the three examples I brought up only Colbert's insult was meant for Trump in particular.  The other two were directed at his kids.  You can make the argument that Ivanka is at least involved in politicking but Barron is a 12 year old.  There's never been this much vitriol directed at a President's family.

I also don't think it does much good for Democrats either.  I think the blatant hate pushes away your more centrist and non political voters, as well as also serving as a reason to continue to fire up the Republican base.  I think you see that reflected in his approval ratings going up.  If it keeps up I don't think the mid terms are going to look as good as the Democrats are thinking they'll be and 2020 will be a nightmare for them.

Yeah, it's not like Republicans attacked Sasha and Malia--oh wait, they DID.  In fact many of you Republicans called them the N word and said you hoped they got aids or one of those 'colored diseases'.  So give me a break with this whole "Kids are off limits!" phony baloney. For that matter, let's not forget that you republicans attacked David Hogg too, and one of you even swatted him. A survivor of a school shooting. Republicans are classless as always.

Furthermore, the office of President deserves ZERO respect with Trump in office.  Especially after the way Obama was treated--and he was a REAL President.  One that actually thought about more than himself.  When a pussy grabbing, twitter addicted, white supremacist, narcissist  buffoon is President, the office has zero dignity and deserves zero respect.  And neither does our country for that matter.  We've lost our place as leaders of the free world.  In that, Trump has succeeded.

[Amarok]

I think the office he holds deserves at least a modicum of respect.  On top of that of the three examples I brought up only Colbert's insult was meant for Trump in particular.  The other two were directed at his kids.  You can make the argument that Ivanka is at least involved in politicking but Barron is a 12 year old.  There's never been this much vitriol directed at a President's family.

I also don't think it does much good for Democrats either.  I think the blatant hate pushes away your more centrist and non political voters, as well as also serving as a reason to continue to fire up the Republican base.  I think you see that reflected in his approval ratings going up.  If it keeps up I don't think the mid terms are going to look as good as the Democrats are thinking they'll be and 2020 will be a nightmare for them.

Yeah, it's not like Republicans attacked Sasha and Malia--oh wait, they DID.  In fact many of you Republicans called them the N word and said you hoped they got aids or one of those 'colored diseases'.  So give me a break with this whole "Kids are off limits!" phony baloney.  For that matter, let's not forget that you republicans attacked David Hogg too, and one of you even swatted him.  A survivor of a school shooting.  Republicans are classless as always.

Furthermore, the office of President deserves ZERO respect with Trump in office.  Especially after the way Obama was treated--and he was a REAL President.  One that actually thought about more than himself.  When a pussy grabbing, twitter addicted, white supremacist, narcissist  buffoon is President, the office has zero dignity and deserves zero respect.  And neither does our country for that matter.  We've lost our place as leaders of the free world.  In that, Trump has succeeded.

I may not have been his biggest fan but i could at least respect Obama

[The Grand Nudger]

Deporter in Chief...Drone Warlord.....but at least his heart was in the right place.

[Rev. Rye]

This would be so much clearer if he said something like

"Hey, @realDonaldTrump, what if someone takes Barron away from you and put him in jail with no hope of ever seeing his family again? Because fuck knows how legally Melania came here, and for all we know, he's just an anchor baby. Let's see how you like it, jackass!"

Then again, this is the jacket Melania wore when visiting those immigrant kids earlier:



No, this isn't photoshopped, and I'm calling it, when Trump's reign appears in history textbooks, this will be the one image that they use to sum up the entire administration.

For this administration, decency is about as dead as Hilary's chances of a third presidential campaign, and the milk of human kindness has curdled into casu marzu. Civility is useless for this President.

[The Valkyrie]

I swear, it's almost like once you become a celebrity, all tact and common sense go out the window.

But, I have no tact and very little common sense, and I'm not a celebrity.

[FlyingNarwhal]

The system deserves disrespect?  What Democracy?  Voting? Because that is the system that put Trump into office.  And I think a big reason for that happening, including the hidden surge of voters not seen in pre election polls, is the disrespect of that system aka the people that voted for Trump.  If you think continuing down that same path is going to work well come mid terms and 2020 I would strongly urge you to reconsider.

And again I'll say, the comments that came from Samantha Bee and Peter Fonda were not directed at Trump, the office, or "the system."  They were directed at his children.  Where in the past has it been remotely appropriate for any previous president's family to receive that kind of rampant hatred with no consequences?

The NRA attack Obama's Daughters 
https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/n...Page2.html

Fox News Attacks Obama's Daughters 
https://www.diversityinc.com/news/malia-obama-fox-news

How about Ann Coulter encouraging people to go after Obama's kids


I could go on with how many awful things were said about Bill Clinton's daughter during her dads trial .

-The NRA ad is bad because it involves Obama's daughters, but it is not a direct attack on them. They are used for cheap political points which I don't like either, but the NRA didn't call them cunts.

-Fox News didn't attack Obama's daughters, there was a comment section in one of their articles that got way out of control. Fox News shut down the comment section in response. The things a lot of the people said were super fucked up, but we're talking anonymous internet trolls, not established media personalities like I chose as examples. If we're going to bring this discussion down to what random people are saying on the internet we may as well nuke the conversation.

-Interestingly enough I looked into the Ann Coulter thing, and while she brings up going after Obama's daughters it's a hyperbolic response which she clarifies at the end of her statement. It also should be noted that she doesn't even directly attack the children, she casually mentions it as a response and then dismisses it immediately afterwards.

Ann Coulter: No, that's right. And they (liberals) do go after the children. I mean, I just say going after the children, generally, to be off limits. It has not been off limits for Republicans. Though, conservatives have take the Obama children off limits, so, you know, maybe it's time to start imitating liberals in another way and go after the Obama children.

But, I think it's just more of going after the family members and the children, and by the way that has been done grotesquely and viciously over the years, by the left. Including, frequently outing gay children of right-wingers. You know, if you get involved in political dialogue you're not supposed to be putting your family at risk. You are the one who is out there making the arguments, take the shots at the public figure. Don't start attacking their children.

I'm seriously asking though, who else is calling the president's daughter a cunt and saying she should fuck her father? Or suggesting that a 12 year old child of the president should get raped to teach the president a lesson? This is a whole new level of hatred. Can you find me anything to this level where the person making the statement wasn't fired or faced harsh consequences?

[The Grand Nudger]

The president..thats who...lol.

Lets not pretend. Lets not reach for the smelling salts all of a sudden. You just quoted Ann -when brown babies arent stolen america dies- Coulter..for fucks sake. If Vanky doesnt want to be involved..she can pay the price her father clearly desires and be done with it. If Barron is supposed to be off limits..then so are guatemalan children.