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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 12:52 pm
(June 22, 2018 at 11:11 am)LastPoet Wrote: Speaking as an outsider leftist I think what he said is plain wrong. Granted, there are examples of the right wing doing it, does it makes it less abhorrent of a stance?
But then, I am in Portugal and politicians never resort to this kind of rethoric. Its sad.
If the leftwing on the US wants people to vote for them (lol dems are right wing by our standards), they should stop and think why resorting to the same tactics just makes them equal to right wingers. Hate rethoric only alienates.
Carry on.
I think you are right about the left needing to chill a bit in order to get elected. Not just the politicians but the base stirs this stuff up. I mean look at the people here who are defending a child rape tweet against the presidents son?
If you can't condemn that that you've really lost your way.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 12:54 pm
That’s a great post, Joods. Agree!
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 12:55 pm
(June 22, 2018 at 9:25 am)Brian37 Wrote: (June 22, 2018 at 9:16 am)*Deidre* Wrote: Personally, I think attacking anyone’s kids in social media is always off limits but Twitter is a cess pool of toxicity. I’ve read nothing but hateful things on there so it’s not entirely surprising seeing again, that the media hates Trump and it seems like anything goes when bashing Trump.
Sane people hate Trump, sane people do the right thing and stand up to bullies, they don't support bullies. President Shithole was raised by a bully and grew up to be a bully. He has made his life out of treating others like shit and ripping them off and conning people. Nobody sane should put up with a western leader using the political tactics he is using. TRUMP is responsible for the climate and tone HE set. To ignore this is to be tone deaf and not only that, dangerous.
He has vilified everyone and anyone who challenges him. YES I hate bullies, no do not expect me to be polite to a fucking bully.
So then you think it's justified that his 12 year old son, who didn't ask to be born, let alone to tRump, should be okay with what's being said about him?
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 12:56 pm
(June 22, 2018 at 12:08 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: (June 22, 2018 at 11:34 am)Divinity Wrote: Oh no, Peter Fonda said he hopes something nasty happens to Barron Trump. How awful. The Billionaire's son who has a secret service detail no doubt has it harder than the children who've been separated from their families and locked in cages.
Give me a fucking break. Yeah, he should have left out the 'pedophile' part, but other than that there's zero wrong with his statement. Anyone who thinks otherwise can go fuck a kite. No, you didn't mishear me. I said go fuck a kite, not fly one.
He's twelve years old, and your defending someone that said he should be put in a cage and raped. This is some serious delusion that's coming out from people supporting this level of vitriol.
(June 22, 2018 at 12:52 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: (June 22, 2018 at 11:11 am)LastPoet Wrote: Speaking as an outsider leftist I think what he said is plain wrong. Granted, there are examples of the right wing doing it, does it makes it less abhorrent of a stance?
But then, I am in Portugal and politicians never resort to this kind of rethoric. Its sad.
If the leftwing on the US wants people to vote for them (lol dems are right wing by our standards), they should stop and think why resorting to the same tactics just makes them equal to right wingers. Hate rethoric only alienates.
Carry on.
I think you are right about the left needing to chill a bit in order to get elected. Not just the politicians but the base stirs this stuff up. I mean look at the people here who are defending a child rape tweet against the presidents son?
If you can't condemn that that you've really lost your way. I respond with Khems statement
Quote:See how we;re all super upset about it..and how the right is..likewise, super upset about it? We all immediately realize that this is not only horrible, but that no one should stand for it.
Unless...ofc, the kids are brown. Then we do stand for it, and it is being done..instead of simply talked about.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 12:58 pm
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(June 22, 2018 at 12:46 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Trump-I can attack Ted Cruises fathers and a dead son but don't you dare attack my super wealthy politically active daughter .
Trump- I can ripe children from the arms of their parents and hold them hostage for political leverage . But don't you dare say bad things about my son who i have used as a political prop before .
Quote:Haha, you just proved their point, unintentionally. What that NRA 'attack' on Obama's daughters was, was pointing out that they went to a private school and we're protected by guns and predictably liberals we're freaking out 'how dare you attack the presidents daughters!'
Although you need to really stretch the definition of attack to make it even a true statement. Miles away from saying to lock up the presidents kids in a cage with a pedophile, neither of which are happening to the immigrant children anyway.
Peter Fonda (who cares what he says anyway, is he even famous anymore?) is clueless and probably believed that posted propghanda photo of a kid in a cage as reality.
If our standard is using kids a political means of attack on a parent .Then no this example completely works . That Trump’s hypocrisy is unmatched is not justification for saying something like that about a child.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 1:01 pm
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(June 22, 2018 at 12:46 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Trump-I can attack Ted Cruises fathers and a dead son but don't you dare attack my super wealthy politically active daughter .
Trump- I can ripe children from the arms of their parents and hold them hostage for political leverage . But don't you dare say bad things about my son who i have used as a political prop before .
Quote:Haha, you just proved their point, unintentionally. What that NRA 'attack' on Obama's daughters was, was pointing out that they went to a private school and we're protected by guns and predictably liberals we're freaking out 'how dare you attack the presidents daughters!'
Although you need to really stretch the definition of attack to make it even a true statement. Miles away from saying to lock up the presidents kids in a cage with a pedophile, neither of which are happening to the immigrant children anyway.
Peter Fonda (who cares what he says anyway, is he even famous anymore?) is clueless and probably believed that posted propghanda photo of a kid in a cage as reality.
If our standard is using kids a political means of attack on a parent .Then no this example completely works .
What example? Saying that the presidents daughters are protected by guns and go to a private school is in no way equal to saying they should be locked in a cage and raped.
That you are trying to make it some sort of equivalency is sad.
The standard isn't using your kids for political purposes, it's just being a decent human. You can be a decent human and say Obama's daughters are protected by guns.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 1:04 pm
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Quote:What example? Saying that the presidents daughters are protected by guns and go to a private school is in no way equal to saying they should be locked in a cage and raped.
That you are trying to make it some sort of equivalency is sad.
As i said if our standard comparison ( iwas not talking about a moral standard) is using children as a means politically their parents then my example works . I never said it was equal in content .But it is equal in intention .
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 1:06 pm
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(June 22, 2018 at 11:24 am)polymath257 Wrote: (June 21, 2018 at 9:42 pm)A Theist Wrote: Off the hinge leftist, Peter Fonda, makes Vulgar Tweet suggesting that Barron Trump be ripped from his mother's arms and be locked in a cage with a pedophile. Fonda is to be appearing in a movie and Sony is standing behind him despite his vile tweet, citing he apologized. So did Roseanne Barr. Okay, ABC. Time to bring Roseanne back.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go....d=56058267
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/peter-...ron-trump/
If you can't see the difference in the two scenarios, I feel sorry for you. What Fonda said isn't racist. At worst it was bad taste. What? Saying a child should be locked in a cage with pedophiles is just as vile as comparing a black person to a monkey. They’re both indefensible. I’m really baffled by the number of people in this thread coming to defense here.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 1:06 pm
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(June 22, 2018 at 12:40 pm)Khemikal Wrote: That;s the irony of it. The left is cornered between the effects of apathy and the misguided pursuit of an elusive high road approach to every issue.
The comments being bickered over are a perfect reflection of the situation we have right now..not just on the border, but in the argument over them in-house on the left and how that relates to why a small number of screaming racist shitgibbons managed to enact an american coup. If you say nothing, they kidnap children. While you;re fighting, they kidnap children.
This behavior within the left has been weaponized by the right.
Ha ha...weaponized your ass. Only "you" can weaponize you. I detest the far left but I don't let it "weaponize" me to where I make vile comments about one of their children and suggest that they should be kidnapped and locked in a cage with a pedophile....and I wouldn't dismiss or excuse someone who did.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
June 22, 2018 at 1:06 pm
(June 22, 2018 at 12:56 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (June 22, 2018 at 12:08 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: He's twelve years old, and your defending someone that said he should be put in a cage and raped. This is some serious delusion that's coming out from people supporting this level of vitriol.
(June 22, 2018 at 12:52 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I think you are right about the left needing to chill a bit in order to get elected. Not just the politicians but the base stirs this stuff up. I mean look at the people here who are defending a child rape tweet against the presidents son?
If you can't condemn that that you've really lost your way. I respond with Khems statement
Quote:See how we;re all super upset about it..and how the right is..likewise, super upset about it? We all immediately realize that this is not only horrible, but that no one should stand for it.
Unless...ofc, the kids are brown. Then we do stand for it, and it is being done..instead of simply talked about.
Except you aren't super upset about it. You defended it by saying that the NRA once pointed out that Obama's daughters are protected by guns.
Show me one post where you were 'super upset over it' what a crock. Grow a conscience.
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