Jesus' Crucifixion a parable

[Fake Messiah]

Jesus Grew up as a labor's son, but more importantly during the time the bible focuses on him he is homeless.

That is not necessarily true, at least according to the Bible. Mark 2:15 (KJV) says  "And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him." Now, some apologists have tried to allege the home is owned by Levi, but one need only read the comment in context to see that this defense won't stand the light of scrutiny.

What makes you think I haven't? What in all that I have shared over the years makes you think I personally do not know great suffering?

Sure. Many, many people go batshit crazy when they lose their kids to diseases and that causes them to start believing in flat earth, spiritualism, Jesus, creationism, Sai Baba - you name it - and you seem pretty insane so maybe it was after one of these incidents that your child died out of cancer and maybe you are just retarded - I don't really know.

The above must be what a small mind in like on the inside...
uga, bunga science describe everything I can see feel taste touche.
uga bunga.. science know everthing.
Uga, bunga... me can not feel taste touche God.. Science can no feel taste touche God Science say no God.. uga bunga me say no god...

There you go, you admit that biological evolution is true and that humans are apes because you say science can't detect god, meaning that everything around us is explained by scientific method which is telling us that everything came by natural causes and there is nothing in beginning of life and humans that we could point and say it was god. And that we also never found any traces of anything in the Bible really happening because that would be proof of god.

So if Science could find God then God would not be as powerful therefore not God.

Sure, that is correct for people like Christians who believe that god is an unexplainable magic, so if someone was to explain that magic they would "kill" god. But then again god is not a defined thing. Because on the other hand we have "god" like emperor of Japan who is very detectable.

[The Valkyrie]

Perhaps it is...

"And LO! the Roman soldiers nailed the Lord on the cross. And God thought it was good. So good, that the next day the Lord could not walk properly."

[Dancefortwo]

Perhaps it is...

"And LO! the Roman soldiers nailed the Lord on the cross.  And God thought it was good.  So good, that the next day the Lord could not walk properly."

It's estimated that the Romans crucified over 10,000 people and some historians say as many as 50 thousand people over the 4-500 years of their empire but archaeologists have found only one person who was buried after he was crucified.  It was a young man and his bones were put in an ossuary box.  If the Romans had allowed people to bury their loved ones after crucifixion  there would be many more examples of this.  

Also, if Jesus was a-walking around Jerusalem after he was crucified, the Romans, being their usual Roman selves, would have simply sent out a contingent of soldiers  and arrested him again. 

The whole resurrection story is a crock of shit.

[Drich]

That is not necessarily true, at least according to the Bible. Mark 2:15 (KJV) says  "And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him." Now, some apologists have tried to allege the home is owned by Levi, but one need only read the comment in context to see that this defense won't stand the light of scrutiny.
Jesus didn't seem to thik he had any place to live:
MAt 8:20 Jesus said to him, “The foxes have holes to live in. The birds have nests. But the Son of Man has no place to rest.”
and again this is mirrored in luke 9

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Sure. Many, many people go batshit crazy when they lose their kids to diseases and that causes them to start believing in flat earth, spiritualism, Jesus, creationism, Sai Baba - you name it - and you seem pretty insane so maybe it was after one of these incidents that your child died out of cancer and maybe you are just retarded - I don't really know.

Children don't have to die in order for you to lose one. some prodigals simply leave and never return.

There you go, you admit that biological evolution is true and that humans are apes because you say science can't detect god, meaning that everything around us is explained by scientific method which is telling us that everything came by natural causes and there is nothing in beginning of life and humans that we could point and say it was god.

duh... unga bunga = captain cave man = evolution.. Evolution is the pinticle monkey man reasoning for himself based on his senses. which is funny because the monkey think the universe is limited to his 5 senses.
and btw I've been able to assimilate the whole of evolution into a 7 day creation for a very long time now.

And that we also never found any traces of anything in the Bible really happening because that would be proof of god.

over exaggerated.
The bible reads as accurately and in many cases more so as any other jewish text or 1st century text as there are more manuscripts to back up what has been recorded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Bible

So if Science could find God then God would not be as powerful therefore not God.

Sure, that is correct for people like Christians who believe that god is an unexplainable magic, so if someone was to explain that magic they would "kill" god. But then again god is not a defined thing. Because on the other hand we have "god" like emperor of Japan who is very detectable.

God's does not have to be magic just not contained. see monkeys need to put thinks in boxes and poke it with several series of sticks so then can accuratly predict what happens when they poke it with a sharp stick verses a soft stick. Your problem using monkey logic... God is not going to subject himself to the get in the box so we can poke you with a stick routine.

But since that is the only way monkies can think (in the box) they are lost to a great number of things that will not fit in their little box.

[Fake Messiah]

duh... unga bunga = captain cave man = evolution.. Evolution is the pinticle monkey man reasoning for himself based on his senses. which is funny because the monkey think the universe is limited to his 5 senses.

Yeah 5 senses and 4 elements (earth, water, air, fire)... In what century are you living in exactly?

and btw I've been able to assimilate the whole of evolution into a 7 day creation for a very long time now.

You still went outside the Bible since the Bible claims that creation lasted 6 days and not 7, but then again your knowledge of the Bible is so abysmal that you think Bible claims creation lasted 7 days and not 6 as it is written.

God's does not have to be magic just not contained. see monkeys need to put thinks in boxes and poke it with several series of sticks so then can accuratly predict what happens when they poke it with a sharp stick verses a soft stick. Your problem using monkey logic... God is not going to subject himself to the get in the box so we can poke you with a stick routine.

Of course, when inventing a god, the most important thing is to claim that it is invisible, inaudible, and imperceptible in any way; otherwise people will become skeptical when it appears to no one, is silent, and does nothing.

[Drich]

duh... unga bunga = captain cave man = evolution.. Evolution is the pinticle monkey man reasoning for himself based on his senses. which is funny because the monkey think the universe is limited to his 5 senses.

Yeah 5 senses and 4 elements (earth, water, air, fire)... In what century are you living in exactly?

Is that right? where does plasma fit in your four elements? How is AI even a possibility? How does love work? Infact plasma is a 5th element AI is not a producible or reliable/tangable product/state, but it is not discarded either. love can be quantified by brain chemicals and emotions but true love is far more than a dopamine reaction. yet we acknowledge it. The point is there are things in this world well beyond the scope of your little in box think world can accurately explain or label. there are thing basic elements like plasma we are still just finding. Meaning how can anyone who claim to have an open mind close it off to God? If you simply put away your childish thoughts of some grand olde wizard and seek to describe God with modern terms you would be looking for. A trans dimensional being... In this day and age we are discovering alien life forms from other planets are far less likly to visit earth because of the sheer distance and our perceive limitations on faster than light travel. But, the idea of multiple dimensions the same time but a different space or a different time and the same space is not outside the realm of scientific possibility.

What if God is simply a being with the knowledge to transverse dimensions, and either has the knowledge and or technology to manipulate the natural order of this time and this space? Doesn't make him any less God/creator just changes your understanding of what God can be and still be God.

and btw I've been able to assimilate the whole of evolution into a 7 day creation for a very long time now.

You still went outside the Bible since the Bible claims that creation lasted 6 days and not 7, but then again your knowledge of the Bible is so abysmal that you think Bible claims creation lasted 7 days and not 6 as it is written.

how stupid are people like you? when you cook a steak do you let it rest after taking it off the fire? did you know a 10 min resting eriod changes the whole flavor profile of a fine cut of beef?
So when I cook or rather when people in the know cook a steak the cooking process may start and spend 1/2 to 2/3 of it's time on the fire, but the resting period is still counted in the cooking time.

When you pour concrete the rest period after the pour is arguably more is the most critical stage of the build If not allowed to cure the wholefoundaton has to be pulled back up.

Baking bread the waiting periods determine the type of bread and consistency of it.

I can provide more but above you have three very legitmate examples where waiting or resting is apart of the whole building baking cooking process. The seventh day was this world's curing day.

God's does not have to be magic just not contained. see monkeys need to put thinks in boxes and poke it with several series of sticks so then can accuratly predict what happens when they poke it with a sharp stick verses a soft stick. Your problem using monkey logic... God is not going to subject himself to the get in the box so we can poke you with a stick routine.

Of course, when inventing a god, the most important thing is to claim that it is invisible, inaudible, and imperceptible in any way; otherwise people will become skeptical when it appears to no one, is silent, and does nothing.

And what I keep telling you is God the literal God of creation makes himself available to you. one on one. no filters no prophets no preists God if you meet him on His terms will give you everything you need to establish and maintain your belief for the rest of your life.

That is why this religion remains. God gives what He promises... Think about it how long will anyone go to an empty godless church? not very long which is why so many are dying while other explode with members! There is definitely someone behind this religion pushing it and people well beyond what they know to be the limitations of their stations in life.

[tahaadi]

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Of course, when inventing a god, the most important thing is to claim that it is invisible, inaudible, and imperceptible in any way; otherwise people will become skeptical when it appears to no one, is silent, and does nothing.

Yes exactly, this is how religion and god works.
Deities are most powerful yet unseen.
I must say, best invention of wisest man to control masses.