The moral argument, for atheism!

[Minimalist]

Major Premise:  If an objective moral lawgiver ("God") exists who is the source of objective morality, then God must be morally good.

Minor Premise:  If a moral, infinite being exists, then such a being has moral obligations, namely, to reveal, unambiguously, objective moral truths to Us, His Creation.

Conclusion:  Since such a clear revelation has never occurred, therefore, god does not exist.

I find do not murder to be fairly unambiguous.

You would have made a shitty crusader.

[Mystic]

The fact they aren't even amazed by it, just shows there is something sinister a force a magic, that keeps people from properly perceiving it. It's ok, I been through that phase. I know now the Quran amazements are not only undeniable but it's enemies and the enemies of the family of the reminder, have to use evil tactics to keep people from perceiving it as is.

[Angrboda]

The fact they aren't even amazed by it, just shows there is something sinister a force a magic, that keeps people from properly perceiving it. It's ok, I been through that phase. I know now the Quran amazements are not only undeniable but it's enemies and the enemies of the family of the reminder, have to use evil tactics to keep people from perceiving it as is.

It shows nothing of the sort. That you regularly appeal to illogical arguments like this is good evidence of your inability to reason properly.

[Mystic]

The fact they aren't even amazed by it, just shows there is something sinister a force a magic, that keeps people from properly perceiving it. It's ok, I been through that phase. I know now the Quran amazements are not only undeniable but it's enemies and the enemies of the family of the reminder, have to use evil tactics to keep people from perceiving it as is.

It shows nothing of the sort.  That you regularly appeal to illogical arguments like this is good evidence of your inability to reason properly.

I know personally it's exactly like that. The fact, is you guys don't want to see Quran for what it truly is and argue against that Quran, speaks volumes of the truth you are afraid of.

[Angrboda]

It shows nothing of the sort.  That you regularly appeal to illogical arguments like this is good evidence of your inability to reason properly.

I know personally it's exactly like that. The fact, is you guys don't want to see Quran for what it truly is and argue against that Quran, speaks volumes of the truth you are afraid of.

You, sir, are a joke.

[Mystic]

I know personally it's exactly like that. The fact, is you guys don't want to see Quran for what it truly is and argue against that Quran, speaks volumes of the truth you are afraid of.

You, sir, are a joke.

God has sufficed me against the mockers, in that, I am immune to it and it doesn't affect me, and I know it but disgraces you.

[Angrboda]

Doesn't disgrace me a bit to call a spade a spade. However, your conduct on this forum very much disgraces you.

[Mystic]

Doesn't disgrace me a bit to call a spade a spade.  However, your conduct on this forum very much disgraces you, and that's an opinion that is widely shared.

I don't think it's widely shared, just some of you loudmouths like to insult.

[bennyboy]

It shows nothing of the sort.  That you regularly appeal to illogical arguments like this is good evidence of your inability to reason properly.

I know personally it's exactly like that. The fact, is you guys don't want to see Quran for what it truly is and argue against that Quran, speaks volumes of the truth you are afraid of.

If you know "personally" that something is objectively true, then you don't know how thinking works.

[Mystic]

I know personally it's exactly like that. The fact, is you guys don't want to see Quran for what it truly is and argue against that Quran, speaks volumes of the truth you are afraid of.

If you know "personally" that something is objectively true, then you don't know how thinking works.

There is levels of knowledge, and people who denied the path to knowledge, don't get to make the rules of how reflection and how thinking works.  The Quran I recite, is not the Quran the leader of time recites which is a much higher level of recitation and the true recitation in full accuracy, however, what I know of Quran is relative to me yes, but at the same time, it's as objective as it gets.