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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 18, 2018 at 2:35 pm
(July 18, 2018 at 2:05 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: (July 18, 2018 at 8:57 am)mh.brewer Wrote: I don't know about the rest of you but every time I read the title all I hear is Blonde.
If Heaven's soundtrack consists of harps and white angels awkwardly rapping, they can have it.
Any song that can incorporate "subaru" is pure genius.
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 18, 2018 at 2:53 pm
(July 18, 2018 at 2:35 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (July 18, 2018 at 2:05 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: If Heaven's soundtrack consists of harps and white angels awkwardly rapping, they can have it.
Any song that can incorporate "subaru" is pure genius.
No arguments here. But Heaven raps won't be that clever and certainly won't feature Debbie Harry.
I'm thinking more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kppx4bzfAaE
Again, they can keep it.
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 18, 2018 at 3:37 pm
(July 18, 2018 at 2:53 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: (July 18, 2018 at 2:35 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Any song that can incorporate "subaru" is pure genius.
No arguments here. But Heaven raps won't be that clever and certainly won't feature Debbie Harry.
I'm thinking more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kppx4bzfAaE
Again, they can keep it.
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 18, 2018 at 8:50 pm
(July 18, 2018 at 12:58 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (July 18, 2018 at 8:29 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Jesus only died for ensouled human beings.
He did not die for plants, animals or freaking aliens.
Actually, Scripture says otherwise:
"We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time. Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies." - Romans 8 [my emphasis]
Read that again, please.
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 19, 2018 at 12:21 am
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(July 18, 2018 at 8:46 am)Joods Wrote: (July 18, 2018 at 2:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: Scripture say that Jesus die once for all, so if there were people on other planets they would not know this and that would be unfair to them and since you are saying take a Christian POV and God being fair and just there can't be people on other planets. God is going to destroy this corrupted universe and create a new one for us, He is wiping the slate clean and all will be well forever and ever, just as one of your fellow atheist has pointed out.
GC
If "other people" on other planets don't know about Jesus and in turn, don't know about the bible or the Omni-everything that is supposed to be your god, then they can't possibly be corrupt in any way, shape or form, according to the laws of your god, as they are written in the bible. Don't you think that if your god really created the universe, that every being capable of thinking like humans, on every single habitable planet would know about him?
If there were people on other planets they would know about God. However the fall corrupted the entire creation and in doing so would have corrupted those people without their knowledge, this wouldn't be fair to them because they would not know what Jesus had done on this planet, thus a just God would not create people that wouldn't have a chance for salvation. This is the sensible explanation, you could speculate with other ideas as you did with people on other planets, but speculation is all it would be. We have no knowledge of an inhabitable planet outside of this one, just because things seem to point to the chance that there could be does not make it true. So the best solution to your question is the one I gave, it is a reasonable one without speculating.
Joods Wrote:You literally just stated here that we are the only beings in the entire universe that know about god. Now, I ask you - how can this teeny, tiny, itty, bitty, little planet in such a vast universe be so important that if there was a god, we are the sole reason for why all that vast space and those infinite universes exist?
No I stated there are no other people in the rest of the universe and I believe this from what God has said through the scriptures.
First of all we know of no other universe and second of all if evolution was true the diversity of life here would have only a itty bitty, tiny, inny weeny chance of ever developing. I know that you will throw out the vast number of planets that are in the universe, however we do not know if there are planets in any other galaxies besides this one. That is pure speculation. God created us because He first loved us, yes even before He created us He loved us and knew us, each and everyone. We are very special to God, so special He created us, as for the rest of the universe He may have created it for His own pleasure and not ours, could be why he was so upset when Adam and Eve sinned because it corrupted the part of the universe He created just for Him self. Now this last sentence is speculation only I have no reasons other than it might be possible.
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If global warming continues and the "Big One" hits California I could be interested.
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(July 18, 2018 at 11:52 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: (July 18, 2018 at 2:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: Scripture say that Jesus die once for all, so if there were people on other planets they would not know this and that would be unfair to them and since you are saying take a Christian POV and God being fair and just there can't be people on other planets. God is going to destroy this corrupted universe and create a new one for us, He is wiping the slate clean and all will be well forever and ever, just as one of your fellow atheist has pointed out.
GC
GC, the OP is rather obviously talking about human colonies on other planets.
Even in 10,000 years we will not be able to travel to another galaxy and I seriously doubt that we can establish a colony on Mars, those fairy tale stories of how it might be possible leave on thing out, money the people want stand for that kind of money to be spent, at least the sane ones.
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(July 18, 2018 at 8:29 am)vorlon13 Wrote: (July 18, 2018 at 2:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: Scripture say that Jesus die once for all, so if there were people on other planets they would not know this and that would be unfair to them and since you are saying take a Christian POV and God being fair and just there can't be people on other planets. God is going to destroy this corrupted universe and create a new one for us, He is wiping the slate clean and all will be well forever and ever, just as one of your fellow atheist has pointed out.
GC
Jesus only died for ensouled human beings.
He did not die for plants, animals or freaking aliens.
How right you are, plants and animals can't sin and there are not any aliens because it would be unjust of god not to give them a chance to be saved and God is a just God.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 19, 2018 at 6:23 am
(July 19, 2018 at 12:21 am)Godscreated Wrote: Joods Wrote:You literally just stated here that we are the only beings in the entire universe that know about god. Now, I ask you - how can this teeny, tiny, itty, bitty, little planet in such a vast universe be so important that if there was a god, we are the sole reason for why all that vast space and those infinite universes exist?
No I stated there are no other people in the rest of the universe and I believe this from what God has said through the scriptures.
First of all we know of no other universe and second of all if evolution was true the diversity of life here would have only a itty bitty, tiny, inny weeny chance of ever developing. I know that you will throw out the vast number of planets that are in the universe, however we do not know if there are planets in any other galaxies besides this one. That is pure speculation. bold mine.
Wrong. Here you go. Proof that there are other planets outside of our galaxy, no god required. You're welcome.
Quote:In an incredible world first, astrophysicists have detected multiple planets in another galaxy, ranging from masses as small as the Moon to ones as great as Jupiter.
Given how difficult it is to find exoplanets even within our Milky Way galaxy, this is no mean feat. Researchers at the University of Oklahoma achieved this thanks to clever use of gravitational microlensing.
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 19, 2018 at 2:46 pm
(July 19, 2018 at 12:21 am)Godscreated Wrote: we do not know if there are planets in any other galaxies besides this one. That is pure speculation.
You sure do love to use the term speculation in relation to science, even when it's use is completely inappropriate. We know that planets exist. We know they orbit stars. We've definitively discovered planets orbiting other stars. Galaxies are made of, among other things, billions of stars. It's simple extropolation to figure out that there are planets orbiting some of the stars in other galaxies, even without Tonks' link.
But for fundamental believing science deniers, it's all just wild assed guessing speculation.
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