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Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought

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Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
July 26, 2018 at 7:07 pm (This post was last modified: July 26, 2018 at 7:07 pm by Angrboda.)
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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
July 26, 2018 at 7:13 pm
It was paul himself™ who claimed to have become all things to all men.   That people on opposite sides of an issue have commonly thought of themselves as...in some way, followers of paul, is amusing.
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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
July 27, 2018 at 1:47 am
(July 26, 2018 at 7:00 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -and that's the rub.  Christianity has always been based on the zeitgeist of the time.  So, today...you have a bunch of Muricans thinking Socialism™ is the end of the world.....?  

Expect to see that in their sermons.

In any case it's tremendously stupid to say Christianity has been effective at making people more compassionate, ethical and loving. One only needs to remember at Early Christian intolerance, Crusades, colonialism, Dark Ages, witch trials, American Puritans persecuting others, Christian treatment of natives, Christians & slavery, Bible Belt problems.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
July 27, 2018 at 2:30 am
Alex had the additional advantage of having been a real person, Jorm.  Helps a lot!
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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
July 27, 2018 at 2:45 am (This post was last modified: July 27, 2018 at 3:42 am by Angrboda.)
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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
July 27, 2018 at 5:08 am (This post was last modified: July 27, 2018 at 5:34 am by Angrboda.)
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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
July 27, 2018 at 5:08 am
Just my 2 pence:

I guess there's a difference between someone writing an account as themselves, and purposely inventing a character to tell a narrative through (real or otherwise).
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July 27, 2018 at 7:05 am
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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
July 27, 2018 at 10:39 am
(July 26, 2018 at 3:48 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(July 26, 2018 at 3:24 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Then why do so many theists point to Constantine as an important figure to the rise of Christianity?

You mean aside from his conversion and him legalizing Christianity at the time?  Jesus Christ Brian.

Christianity was legal at the time. What Constantine did was largely replace the imperial cult with christianity (to be completed a couple of generations later with the suppression of all competing religions).

On the very rare occasions that christians got into trouble it was solely due to their refusal to sacrifice and give praise to the imperial cult, considered by Rome a civic and patriotic rather than a religious duty.
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RE: Paul's Writings Underpin Western Thought
July 27, 2018 at 10:56 am (This post was last modified: July 27, 2018 at 11:00 am by Angrboda.)
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