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RE: The connection between Christianity and Capitalism
August 17, 2018 at 9:19 pm
(August 1, 2018 at 4:49 pm)Cecelia Wrote: On the surface, Christianity and Capitalism should be incompatible. After all, Jesus preaches charity above all else and taking care of your fellow man. Most Christians, of course, don't follow this in the least. They state "Be Charitable if you WANT TO!" As if somehow it's being christ-like to just hate the gays, and not actually help people. (Because you know, the latter is just too hard)
But if you really think about it, the two are compatible in another way. Getting into heaven is essentially the same as being born into a rich family. Either you're born into a family the worships Jesus, or you go to hell for being born into the wrong religion and then not figuring it out yourself. Born to a Christian family in America? Congrats! You have a good shot at getting into heaven. Born into a Muslim family in the middle east? Too bad! Should've thought about that before being born in the middle east. Born into a Jewish family during the Holocaust! Do I have bad news for you or what?
Of course the absurdity of such a concept is obvious on it's own. But I can see the connection. So I can finally see why Christians are Republicans. Because God is a Republican. Punish people for the circumstances of their birth, punish people who don't follow your own twisted sense of morality, and might = right.
I don't think your post had enough generalizations, surely you could of added a few more?
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RE: The connection between Christianity and Capitalism
August 17, 2018 at 9:49 pm
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RE: The connection between Christianity and Capitalism
August 17, 2018 at 11:06 pm
I note (again) that The Lord God Almighty personally slew both Ananias and Sapphira for not being good communists.
I also note, in view of their example the Pilgrims that came to Plymouth Rock attempted their Bible based version of Communism upon their arrival, and killed over 1/2 of their membership until the gaunt survivors adopted capitalism and saved themselves. I suppose someone looking at the Pilgrim thing would suggest they should have brought more money along . . .
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RE: The connection between Christianity and Capitalism
August 18, 2018 at 5:20 am
(August 17, 2018 at 9:19 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (August 1, 2018 at 4:49 pm)Cecelia Wrote: On the surface, Christianity and Capitalism should be incompatible. After all, Jesus preaches charity above all else and taking care of your fellow man. Most Christians, of course, don't follow this in the least. They state "Be Charitable if you WANT TO!" As if somehow it's being christ-like to just hate the gays, and not actually help people. (Because you know, the latter is just too hard)
But if you really think about it, the two are compatible in another way. Getting into heaven is essentially the same as being born into a rich family. Either you're born into a family the worships Jesus, or you go to hell for being born into the wrong religion and then not figuring it out yourself. Born to a Christian family in America? Congrats! You have a good shot at getting into heaven. Born into a Muslim family in the middle east? Too bad! Should've thought about that before being born in the middle east. Born into a Jewish family during the Holocaust! Do I have bad news for you or what?
Of course the absurdity of such a concept is obvious on it's own. But I can see the connection. So I can finally see why Christians are Republicans. Because God is a Republican. Punish people for the circumstances of their birth, punish people who don't follow your own twisted sense of morality, and might = right.
I don't think your post had enough generalizations, surely you could of added a few more? It is a bucket of crazy that you have voluntarily chosen to live in. Don't complain when others point at your bucket.
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RE: The connection between Christianity and Capitalism
August 18, 2018 at 9:55 am
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(August 17, 2018 at 11:06 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I note (again) that The Lord God Almighty personally slew both Ananias and Sapphira for not being good communists.
I also note, in view of their example the Pilgrims that came to Plymouth Rock attempted their Bible based version of Communism upon their arrival, and killed over 1/2 of their membership until the gaunt survivors adopted capitalism and saved themselves. I suppose someone looking at the Pilgrim thing would suggest they should have brought more money along . . . The pilgrims intended to establish a commercial fishery and failed through lack of equipment and training. They then found that they didn't have the necessary labor or time to build their own houses (though they tried) and this necessitated a common lodge. They then found that the land was not amenable to the system of ag with which they were familiar (and they had no draft animals to pull a deep board). Then..... they started getting sick.
They didn't intend or attempt any version of communism. They did what they had to do to stay alive. They came out of the other side of their initial difficulties quickly..and became the foundational settlers of a mercantile outpost. The common course was a response to hardship, poor planning, and fuckery from their financial backers. They abandoned it, in point of fact..because they no longer needed it and wanted to make more money. The common course was, itself, a tenant landlord relationship. They were employees on a plantation, lol.
The whole pilgrims were commies bit, is a myth. Revisionist history from cold war conservatives. Nearing that time of year, though..when fox news spreads the gospel of bullshit again, eh?
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RE: The connection between Christianity and Capitalism
August 18, 2018 at 11:08 am
Quote: The common course was, itself, a tenant landlord relationship. They were employees on a plantation, lol.
And of course they had to kill the Indians which is about the only xtian thing they did.
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RE: The connection between Christianity and Capitalism
August 18, 2018 at 1:45 pm
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(August 18, 2018 at 5:20 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (August 17, 2018 at 9:19 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I don't think your post had enough generalizations, surely you could of added a few more? It is a bucket of crazy that you have voluntarily chosen to live in. Don't complain when others point at your bucket.
Maybe.
But like I said before, it's the atheists here who are unhinged, depressed and suicidal...
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RE: The connection between Christianity and Capitalism
August 18, 2018 at 4:16 pm
Suicidal? If we're so suicidal then how come there are still any members here left on this forum, let alone so many? Shouldn't we all be dead by suicide by now?
It rather seems like another set of lies you need to tell yourself every day in order to remain Christian.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: The connection between Christianity and Capitalism
August 18, 2018 at 7:29 pm
Huggy never knows what's going to come flying out of his ass.
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RE: The connection between Christianity and Capitalism
August 18, 2018 at 7:31 pm
-or who put it up there to begin with.
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