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RE: Alex Jones and Infowars gets 'disappeared' - are we headed in the right direction?
August 7, 2018 at 11:48 am
Private companies can do what they want.
Users can leave if they want.
A month or so ago it was clear that Facebook was shadow banning Milo. I wasn't getting his feed even after changing my settings so that I would. I reported it to FB, and got the feed back.
Economics will either make these places accept conservative views, or an alternative that does will pop up.
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RE: Alex Jones and Infowars gets 'disappeared' - are we headed in the right direction?
August 7, 2018 at 12:04 pm
Quote:The irony is that big tech has literally conspired against Alex Jones for trafficking in conspiracy theories
Banning Jones isn't a conspiracy
Quote:A month or so ago it was clear that Facebook was shadow banning Milo. I wasn't getting his feed even after changing my settings so that I would. I reported it to FB, and got the feed back.
Bullshit
Quote:Economics will either make these places accept conservative views, or an alternative that does will pop up.
This has nothing to do with Conservatism that's just you persecution complex .
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RE: Alex Jones and Infowars gets 'disappeared' - are we headed in the right direction?
August 7, 2018 at 12:42 pm
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(August 7, 2018 at 11:48 am)alpha male Wrote: Private companies can do what they want.
Users can leave if they want.
A month or so ago it was clear that Facebook was shadow banning Milo. I wasn't getting his feed even after changing my settings so that I would. I reported it to FB, and got the feed back.
Economics will either make these places accept conservative views, or an alternative that does will pop up.
Is Jones' lunatic conspiracy mongering a conservative view, or were you limiting yourself to describing Milos gay trolling as a conservative view?
Is this what's left of conservatism? From where I sit...I see conservative views well represented on every single form of social media..and I certainly wouldn't want to tie my own ideology to either of those clowns. If something crops up to host either of them, it will do so to cater to the loon viewership, not the conservative voice.
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RE: Alex Jones and Infowars gets 'disappeared' - are we headed in the right direction?
August 7, 2018 at 1:59 pm
(August 6, 2018 at 7:52 pm)Cathooloo Wrote: Also I strongly believe that what Jones is doing is largely a con and that too I have no qualms about declining to publish.
Didn't he claim to be a performance artist to keep his kids or something.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/infow...87571.html
Quote:Notorious US broadcaster Alex Jones is a “performance artist” and his on air persona is an act, according to his lawyer.
Mr Jones runs the controversial Infowars website, which is known for propagating conspiracy theories and its support of Donald Trump.
But Mr Jones is now embroiled in a custody battle with his estranged wife, Kelly Jones, with whom he has three children. She said some of Mr Jones’s on-air rants – for which he is renowned – are evidence of him being “not a stable” father.
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RE: Alex Jones and Infowars gets 'disappeared' - are we headed in the right direction?
August 7, 2018 at 2:10 pm
(August 7, 2018 at 11:48 am)alpha male Wrote: Private companies can do what they want.
Users can leave if they want.
A month or so ago it was clear that Facebook was shadow banning Milo. I wasn't getting his feed even after changing my settings so that I would. I reported it to FB, and got the feed back.
Economics will either make these places accept conservative views, or an alternative that does will pop up.
Yet the NRA goons shit their pants when Airlines and sporting goods stores did just that.
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RE: Alex Jones and Infowars gets 'disappeared' - are we headed in the right direction?
August 7, 2018 at 2:56 pm
Infowars "reporter" fucks up.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/infowar...umiliated/
Quote:InfoWars reporter tries to ‘fact check’ claim that Facebook is a private company — and gets utterly humiliated
Quote:InfoWars reporter Millie Weaver on Tuesday publicly humiliated herself by botching the basic terminology of economics journalism to try to claim Facebook is a public utility.
After Facebook axed Jones’ Facebook page this week, Weaver and other InfoWars supporters have tried to claim that this amounts to an unconstitutional violation of the website’s free speech.
The flaw in this argument is that Facebook is a privately run company that can make decisions about whether to give individual media outlets a platform — and the Constitution clearly states only that the government cannot do anything to restrict free speech.
Apparently you have to be an idiot to work at Infowars.
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RE: Alex Jones and Infowars gets 'disappeared' - are we headed in the right direction?
August 7, 2018 at 3:26 pm
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(August 7, 2018 at 12:42 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Is Jones' lunatic conspiracy mongering a conservative view, or were you limiting yourself to describing Milos gay trolling as a conservative view?
I was speaking of Milo in particular, and conservative views in general. Candace Owens was banned shortly by Twitter for merely taking tweets made by Sarah Jeong and replacing "white" with "black" or "Jewish."
Quote:Is this what's left of conservatism?
Nope. Ben Shapiro seems to be a leading conservative voice on social media. So far Twitter hasn't banned him, but antifa tries to shut him up when he has live appearances. And they just went after Candace too.
(August 7, 2018 at 2:10 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (August 7, 2018 at 11:48 am)alpha male Wrote: Private companies can do what they want.
Users can leave if they want.
A month or so ago it was clear that Facebook was shadow banning Milo. I wasn't getting his feed even after changing my settings so that I would. I reported it to FB, and got the feed back.
Economics will either make these places accept conservative views, or an alternative that does will pop up.
Yet the NRA goons shit their pants when Airlines and sporting goods stores did just that.
Huh? As noted, users can leave if they want. There's nothing wrong with the NRA encouraging a boycott. Seems to me that the left was first at that. Now the right has adopted that tactic as well, and seems to be better at it.
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RE: Alex Jones and Infowars gets 'disappeared' - are we headed in the right direction?
August 7, 2018 at 5:00 pm
Quote:I was speaking of Milo in particular, and conservative views in general. Candace Owens was banned shortly by Twitter for merely taking tweets made by Sarah Jeong and replacing "white" with "black" or "Jewish."
Bullshit
Quote:Nope. Ben Shapiro seems to be a leading conservative voice on social media. So far Twitter hasn't banned him, but antifa tries to shut him up when he has live appearances. And they just went after Candace too.
Bullshit
Quote:Huh? As noted, users can leave if they want. There's nothing wrong with the NRA encouraging a boycott. Seems to me that the left was first at that. Now the right has adopted that tactic as well, and seems to be better at it.
Bullshit
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RE: Alex Jones and Infowars gets 'disappeared' - are we headed in the right direction?
August 7, 2018 at 5:19 pm
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Personally, I don't use Facebook or Twitter. I have flirted with doing so in the past but I really don't see the value of them either as a user or as an advertiser. I'm not boycotting them. They just aren't part of my life. It amazes me that people think they are indispensable. But they aren't. Just ask MySpace or IBM.
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RE: Alex Jones and Infowars gets 'disappeared' - are we headed in the right direction?
August 7, 2018 at 5:31 pm
(August 7, 2018 at 10:37 am)Brian37 Wrote: (August 6, 2018 at 8:59 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: He's a goofy con man. Can't stand him. But this presents a slippery slope. What happens when it's someone who is telling the truth but is saying things that the powers that be don't like?
Instead, easily refute his goofy arguments and claims. More people will believe you than him. It's only the most deluded people that would believe this guy. He was snarling in anger abut Brian freaking Stelter. He's obviously unhinged or a dramatic actor/con man. Both, likely.
To be clear they have every legal right to do this. That is not in doubt.
No it does not.
America has had a history of judicial review on speech and have been pretty consistent in protecting free speech. People vs Larry Flint is one of the most famous cases. Larry poked fun of Jerry Falwell's mother, but the fake booze add was clearly labeled PARODY.
What is not protected speech is slander, liable and incitement. Alex had no intent in making it clear it was all an act and deliberately preyed upon fear and because of that the Sandy Hook victims have been HARMED by his actions. Those are subject to civil suits. Just like in the 60s 70s and 80s the KKK was successfully sued for it's speech that lead to harm of fellow citizens.
Things like South Park or Dave Shapel not in any danger. If you fear those types of parodies being harmed you have more to worry about from conservatives than liberals. Iran is an example of a conservative religious and POLITICALLY CORRECT state.
You have far more to fear from 45 than you do liberals when it comes to silencing free speech. I'm talking about for instance, a Kyle Kulinski or The Scathing Atheist. Online outlets that tell the truth but are truths that corporate entities may not like. And they may not always be nice about how they tell those truths.
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