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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 10, 2018 at 12:35 pm
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Quote:No, he just needs to answer the question posed - in an election in which both candidates have demonstrated past racism, is the only morally acceptable choice not to vote?
As i said yes
Quote:He doesn't do so because:
- Hillary Super Predator Clinton has her own racist baggage
- Plenty of liberals here voted for Clinton anyway
- An affirmative answer would mean that he sees those people as immoral supporters of a racist
- He doesn't want to insult those people
- He does want to insult Trump voters
So, he dodges the question.
He already said he would not vote for a racist and did not vote Hilary so no he was consistent .
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 10, 2018 at 12:37 pm
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(August 10, 2018 at 12:32 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: So should people be able to demonstrate dislike of a person in political office was the point of this thread.
It said "harass" but refusing to serve someone is not harassing them, it is refusing to serve them and is neither threatening or disturbing..
Quote:Harassment covers a wide range of behaviours of an offensive nature. It is commonly understood as behaviour intended to disturb or upset, and it is characteristically repetitive. In the legal sense, it is intentional behaviour which is found threatening or disturbing.
Southern businesses and blacks... Christian bakers and gay weddings... the people not served frequently find it disturbing and upsetting.
(August 10, 2018 at 12:35 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: As i said yes
He didn't.
Quote:He already said he would not vote for a racist and did not vote Hilary
Yep, but he wouldn't say it's morally unacceptable to do so, as he would then either need to defend Hillary, or he'd be calling all the Hillary voters here immoral.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 10, 2018 at 12:42 pm
(August 10, 2018 at 12:37 pm)alpha male Wrote: (August 10, 2018 at 12:32 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: So should people be able to demonstrate dislike of a person in political office was the point of this thread.
It said "harass" but refusing to serve someone is not harassing them, it is refusing to serve them and is neither threatening or disturbing..
Southern businesses and blacks... Christian bakers and gay weddings... the people not served frequently find it disturbing and upsetting.
Indeed. That was a pattern of oppression.
However not serving Sarah Sanders was a protest at her abuse of power and not a means of oppression.
Do you see the difference?
I'm fairly sure you don't.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 10, 2018 at 12:48 pm
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(August 10, 2018 at 12:37 pm)alpha male Wrote: Yep, but he wouldn't say it's morally unacceptable to do so, as he would then either need to defend Hillary, or he'd be calling all the Hillary voters here immoral.
I think you have a short memory, lol. It was only two years ago..after all. Then again..this is probably another effect of your myopia. In the same way you imagine that I'm on the "other side" because your interactions with me have mostly been in disagreement..you fail to realize that others have had the same experience when fluffing for hillary (or singing the praise of barack obama).
I wouldn't be remotely surprised if you view the entire world through this clouded prism.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 10, 2018 at 12:58 pm
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(August 10, 2018 at 12:42 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Indeed. That was a pattern of oppression.
However not serving Sarah Sanders was a protest at her abuse of power and not a means of oppression.
Do you see the difference?
I'm fairly sure you don't.
How has she abused power? Is it just that you hate Trump, so anyone working for him is an oppressor? Or is there some specific incidents you're referring to? I think she's a tough woman that doesn't take shit from men - having 3 daughters, I like that.
(August 10, 2018 at 12:48 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I think you have a short memory, lol. It was only two years ago..after all. Then again..this is probably another effect of your myopia. In the same way you imagine that I'm on the "other side" because your interactions with me have mostly been in disagreement..you fail to realize that others have had the same experience when fluffing for hillary (or singing the praise of barack obama).
I wouldn't be remotely surprised if you view the entire world through this clouded prism.
I've seen you tangle with Shell, and seen her also call out your bullshit sophistry.
If you're saying that all the people who voted for Hillary are immoral, then fair enough.
Seems pretty stupid though. If all the moral people abstain, then the immoral people get to make the decisions. Go figure.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 10, 2018 at 1:09 pm
(August 10, 2018 at 12:58 pm)alpha male Wrote: (August 10, 2018 at 12:42 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Indeed. That was a pattern of oppression.
However not serving Sarah Sanders was a protest at her abuse of power and not a means of oppression.
Do you see the difference?
I'm fairly sure you don't.
How has she abused power? Is it just that you hate Trump, so anyone working for him is an oppressor? Or is there some specific incidents you're referring to? I think she's a tough woman that doesn't take shit from men - having 3 daughters, I like that.
She has used her position to rail against the press ok so perhaps abuse of power was a bit much for her.
It was her defence of Trumps abuses of power and lies that they complain against.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 10, 2018 at 1:12 pm
(August 10, 2018 at 1:09 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: She has used her position to rail against the press ok so perhaps abuse of power was a bit much for her.
It was her defence of Trumps abuses of power and lies that they complain against.
That's just her job.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 10, 2018 at 1:16 pm
(August 10, 2018 at 12:58 pm)alpha male Wrote: I've seen you tangle with Shell, and seen her also call out your bullshit sophistry.
If you're saying that all the people who voted for Hillary are immoral, then fair enough.
Seems pretty stupid though. If all the moral people abstain, then the immoral people get to make the decisions. Go figure.
Just a few posts back you loved it....see, short memory.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 10, 2018 at 1:19 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u7gM8cM...ture=share
This is the type of thing, that I think that the OP is talking about. Do these people actually think that they are helping there cause?
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 10, 2018 at 1:21 pm
Antifas only cause is to stand up to facism....so, yes?
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