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Christians: What line are you unwilling to cross for God?
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RE: Christians: What line are you unwilling to cross for God?
August 22, 2018 at 5:22 pm
(August 22, 2018 at 4:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Which one of our rituals do you consider crude/repugnant? It's ok that you think that. I'm just curious.

Well, I cant speak for warmdecember but I find the ritual cannibalism of transubstantiation to be on the list.

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RE: Christians: What line are you unwilling to cross for God?
August 22, 2018 at 5:35 pm
(August 22, 2018 at 5:22 pm)fromdownunder Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 4:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Which one of our rituals do you consider crude/repugnant? It's ok that you think that. I'm just curious.

Well, I cant speak for warmdecember but I find the ritual cannibalism of transubstantiation to be on the list.

Norm

For what it is worth, we certainly don't consider communion to be cannibalism. And we oppose cannibalism.

It is true that we believe Jesus is physically present in the eucharist in a way that is not fully understood (hence why we refer to this as a great mystery). But it is, nonetheless, in the form of a wafer or bread... not raw human meat.

Thanks for answering, though.
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RE: Christians: What line are you unwilling to cross for God?
August 22, 2018 at 5:50 pm (This post was last modified: August 22, 2018 at 5:54 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
The RCC maintains that the cracker is not just a cracker...that after the magic spell is cast..it's not even a cracker.

Quote:The Council of Trent summarizes the Catholic faith by declaring: "Because Christ our Redeemer said that it was truly his body that he was offering under the species of bread, it has always been the conviction of the Church of God, and this holy Council now declares again, that by the consecration of the bread and wine there takes place a change of the whole substance of the bread into the substance of the body of Christ our Lord and of the whole substance of the wine into the substance of his blood. This change the holy Catholic Church has fittingly and properly called transubstantiation (CCC, 1376).

The manner of it's transformation may be "not fully understood".... yet another mystery of the Not-A-Mystery-Cult™...but the fact of it's transformation is settled.
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RE: Christians: What line are you unwilling to cross for God?
August 22, 2018 at 5:51 pm
A double yellow line states the DMV god.
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RE: Christians: What line are you unwilling to cross for God?
August 22, 2018 at 11:17 pm
(August 22, 2018 at 5:50 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The RCC maintains that the cracker is not just a cracker...that after the magic spell is cast..it's not even a cracker.  

Quote:The Council of Trent summarizes the Catholic faith by declaring: "Because Christ our Redeemer said that it was truly his body that he was offering under the species of bread, it has always been the conviction of the Church of God, and this holy Council now declares again, that by the consecration of the bread and wine there takes place a change of the whole substance of the bread into the substance of the body of Christ our Lord and of the whole substance of the wine into the substance of his blood. This change the holy Catholic Church has fittingly and properly called transubstantiation (CCC, 1376).

The manner of it's transformation may be "not fully understood".... yet another mystery of the Not-A-Mystery-Cult™...but the fact of it's transformation is settled.

IOWs, if it smells like cannibalism, feels like cannibalism, and tastes like cannibalism . . .








IT IS CANNIBALISM
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RE: Christians: What line are you unwilling to cross for God?
August 22, 2018 at 11:27 pm
(August 22, 2018 at 11:17 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 5:50 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The RCC maintains that the cracker is not just a cracker...that after the magic spell is cast..it's not even a cracker.  


The manner of it's transformation may be "not fully understood".... yet another mystery of the Not-A-Mystery-Cult™...but the fact of it's transformation is settled.

IOWs, if it smells like cannibalism, feels like cannibalism, and tastes like cannibalism . . .








IT IS CANNIBALISM

Never knew the flesh of our lord is made of such dry crumbly stuff. It’s like he died and got mummified or something.
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RE: Christians: What line are you unwilling to cross for God?
August 22, 2018 at 11:43 pm
2000 years and they had forgotten to burp the Tuppware . . . .
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RE: Christians: What line are you unwilling to cross for God?
August 23, 2018 at 1:58 am
(August 22, 2018 at 3:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: My understanding is the message behind that particular story is Abraham's dedication and trust in God.

So he's willing to kill his kid?

Fuck such a god.... and father.
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RE: Christians: What line are you unwilling to cross for God?
August 23, 2018 at 4:33 am
(August 22, 2018 at 5:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 5:22 pm)fromdownunder Wrote: Well, I cant speak for warmdecember but I find the ritual cannibalism of transubstantiation to be on the list.

Norm

For what it is worth, we certainly don't consider communion to be cannibalism. And we oppose cannibalism.

It is true that we believe Jesus is physically present in the eucharist in a way that is not fully understood (hence why we refer to this as a great mystery). But it is, nonetheless, in the form of a wafer or bread... not raw human meat.

Thanks for answering, though.
You are being disingenuous.

As a former catholic, it IS ritual cannibalism.  Trying to pretend it isn't is dishonest.
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RE: Christians: What line are you unwilling to cross for God?
August 23, 2018 at 6:03 am (This post was last modified: August 23, 2018 at 6:04 am by Anomalocaris.)
(August 22, 2018 at 5:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 5:22 pm)fromdownunder Wrote: Well, I cant speak for warmdecember but I find the ritual cannibalism of transubstantiation to be on the list.

Norm

For what it is worth, we certainly don't consider communion to be cannibalism. And we oppose cannibalism.

It is true that we believe Jesus is physically present in the eucharist in a way that is not fully understood (hence why we refer to this as a great mystery). But it is, nonetheless, in the form of a wafer or bread... not raw human meat.

Thanks for answering, though.

It’s worth absolutely nothing that you would consider what you believe to be the eating of human flesh to not be cannibalism.   The meaning of cannibalism is defined by the dictionary, not your doctrine nor personal cognitive dissonance.
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