Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: January 18, 2025, 5:10 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Eternal bliss
RE: Eternal bliss
(August 30, 2018 at 10:18 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(August 30, 2018 at 4:11 am)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote: Yes I wouldn't mind you doing that actually. I gather that you think heaven is more a state of mind rather than an actual existence (have I understood you correctly?) If so, do you think that all your memories and experiences are wiped clean? Do you enter this heaven with all the knowledge that you possess now? I ask this because I often think about people who have endured terrible lives, are they 'fixed' magically in your heaven?

Let's take someone who has developed dementia in later life as an example, what would be your take on their situation, or maybe a severely disabled person who has endured an uphill struggle all their life? Is their heavenly state of mind going to be on a par with yours?

No, it is an actual existance. What I said is that it is a state of being rather than a physical place.

Yes, we still enter with all the knowledge, memories, and experiences we have had in this life.

People who have lived terrible lives still enter the afterlife with the memory of their terrible lives. But the love of God (if they choose to accept it) will overwhelm them with complete fulfillment and complete joy. So it isn't that they won't remember their painful memories. But that it will no longer matter or be relevant. The person is now existing in complete joy and complete love. It will "cure" any pain or trauma they feel from their past life.

As for people with illnesses/disabilities, either physical or mental.... well, since only our souls go to the afterlife and not our bodies or our brains, any disease, illness, disability, etc, will no longer apply. The person with dementia, bi polar disorder, mental retardation, etc, will be able to experience existance clearly from that point on, as though they no longer have those diseases.

(Disclaimer: this is all my belief/opinion)

So you believe that someone retains their memories sometimes terrible horrific ones, but is incapable of feeling anything but joy? Count me out, I don't do eternal zombie.
Reply
RE: Eternal bliss
That's fine. Hopefully I answered all your questions clearly and thoroughly.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
Reply
RE: Eternal bliss
(August 30, 2018 at 2:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: That's fine. Hopefully I answered all your questions clearly and thoroughly.

You certainly did thanks Smile
Reply
RE: Eternal bliss
(August 30, 2018 at 2:59 pm)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote:
(August 30, 2018 at 2:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: That's fine. Hopefully I answered all your questions clearly and thoroughly.

You certainly did thanks Smile

No prob bob! Lol
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
Reply
RE: Eternal bliss
(August 30, 2018 at 2:21 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(August 30, 2018 at 10:55 am)Little Rik Wrote: You have no idea how the priests always manipulate someone real experience and turn them into a total different story in order to become intermediaries between God and the masses.

Says the person who has blind faith in a con man turned guru.



I am glad that you do not work in the justice system.  Rolleyes

I just wonder how many innocent people would have been imprisoned by your kangaroo court  Devil (large) where the evidence would not be needed.


You reach a new low and vile behavior, shame yog, shame.  Diablo

(August 29, 2018 at 11:02 am)Khemikal Wrote: Exactly, it's absurd to think that god sends people to hell..he sends karma to rape them for dog kicking.  Everyone knows that.


It is bizarre to see people like you that praise science yet reject this same science when it disprove and contradict you.

The positive and the negative are a reality.
The waves go up and down in a never ending flow.
The good and the bad follow the same routine.
Within the material-physical world this is a reality.

The karma law is therefore necessary to adjust the balance within this reality.
Without this adjustment there wouldn't be this universal reality but dreamers don't get it.  Shake Fist
Reply
RE: Eternal bliss
Interview with P.R. Sarkar

Quote:Q. What is it that makes everyone around go against the Anand Marga?
A. I do not know what you mean by everybody around. Yes, there are some people who are against us, but they are a handful. They are either Communists or Congressmen.

Q. In almost all the raids that have so far been conducted on Anand Marga premises, either some bombs, firearms or some human skulls have been found. Why?
A. The bombs and the firearms were planted beforehand by the CBI, this was done to implicate the Marga in some frame-up cases. So far as the human skulls are concerned, we have purchased them from the market. We need them for our sadhana (meditation).


Ananda Marga organisation in total mess

Quote:According to Anandamurti's defected private secretary, Vishokananda, with the expansion of the Marga there sprang up five branches with specific purposes. "Vishwa Shanti Sena (VSS) was set up in 1959 to train the workers in the art of espionage and warfare, Proutist Forum of India (PFI) in 1962 to propagate the PROUT philosophy, Education Relief and Welfare Section (ERAWS) in 1964 to open schools, hospitals and dispensaries and to organize relief works, Seva Dharma Mission (SDM) in 1964 to brain-wash the workers and Proutist Bloc of India (PBI) to conduct political activities."

Yet Sarkar denied his knowledge about the existence of any wing except the ERAWS. Many of the Margis still stoutly deny that it has anything to do with politics or that it had ever engaged itself in violent revolution. Whatever Anandamurti had said was only a socio-political theory and nothing more. "There was a difference between what was said or written and what was understood," Keshavananda insists.
[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg]
Reply
RE: Eternal bliss
(August 31, 2018 at 8:06 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(August 29, 2018 at 11:02 am)Khemikal Wrote: Exactly, it's absurd to think that god sends people to hell..he sends karma to rape them for dog kicking.  Everyone knows that.


It is bizarre to see people like you that praise science yet reject this same science when it disprove and contradict you.

The positive and the negative are a reality.
The waves go up and down in a never ending flow.
The good and the bad follow the same routine.
Within the material-physical world this is a reality.

The karma law is therefore necessary to adjust the balance within this reality.
Without this adjustment there wouldn't be this universal reality but dreamers don't get it.  Shake Fist

I keep forgetting about your advanced science degree from the University of Shit Analogies.
Reply
RE: Eternal bliss
Lil Rik, Professor Emeritus of Dog Math at Karmic U, comin down to drop the real shit on we uneducated plebs.  Wink
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply
RE: Eternal bliss
(August 31, 2018 at 8:06 am)Little Rik Wrote: You reach a new low and vile behavior, shame yog, shame.  Diablo

Stop calling her Yog, it's like me calling you Dave. Stop it.
Reply
RE: Eternal bliss
(August 25, 2018 at 8:52 am)purplepurpose Wrote:
(August 25, 2018 at 8:40 am)Chad32 Wrote: That kind of throws a wrench in things, doesn't it? apparently it's possible to be unhappy in heaven, and get yourself kicked out if you think new leadership is in order. So even if you get into heaven, there's no guarantee you'll remain there.

I bet most of the people at madhouses don't have such serious discussions about magical worlds. I mean, we are taking this magical lore way too seriously.
You've never known a Harry Potter, Star Trek, or Star Wars fan, have you?

This is the discussion in my house almost daily. Why did Gandalf say "fly you fools!"? Followed by argument why they couldn't have flown to Mordor. Time turners are the absolute worst, discuss. Did you know Wookies can live to be 400 years old? What's for dinner hun? Spam, spam and more spam!
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?” 
― Tom StoppardRosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Eternal Damnation Hungry Hungry Hippo 14 5703 August 15, 2015 at 4:39 am
Last Post: Hungry Hungry Hippo
  An eternal life is a worthless life. Lucanus 47 14292 December 24, 2014 at 5:11 pm
Last Post: dyresand
  Eternal punishment is pointless. Ryantology 497 78831 December 5, 2014 at 9:09 pm
Last Post: Esquilax
  God is not the only eternal one ! (if he exist) reality.Mathematician 16 3996 June 19, 2014 at 3:06 am
Last Post: reality.Mathematician
  Hell is eternal life smax 14 5298 April 25, 2014 at 9:08 am
Last Post: JuliaL
  My reasoning in rejecting eternal torture/hell... Mystic 75 25154 April 9, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Thoughts on the "eternal consciousness" / "everything is energy" theories... hoppimike 8 5304 June 11, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Last Post: Adjusted Sanity
  eternal recurence darkblight 15 5566 August 23, 2011 at 10:39 am
Last Post: KichigaiNeko
  Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death Ervin 62 26616 March 8, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Last Post: reverendjeremiah
  Hell is eternal because God is infinite? RosieLass 26 11489 October 16, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Last Post: Minimalist



Users browsing this thread: 3 Guest(s)