Ariana Grande being groped by a bishop in a church

[Abaddon_ire]

His fingers were digging into her like a bowling ball. No one who isn't a predator does more than the light touch, fingers uncurled, when doing a friendly side hug. Fuck that guy.

It doesn't matter if she felt like it was inappropriate, though that is important in another way, he WAS being inappropriate.

As a man, I have been in circumstances where one ends up with an arm around a lady previously unknown. One always makes sure that hands end up in neutral territory.

That perv was copping a feel, no doubt.

[Shell B]

His fingers were digging into her like a bowling ball. No one who isn't a predator does more than the light touch, fingers uncurled, when doing a friendly side hug. Fuck that guy.

It doesn't matter if she felt like it was inappropriate, though that is important in another way, he WAS being inappropriate.

As a man, I have been in circumstances where one ends up with an arm around a lady previously unknown. One always makes sure that hands end up in neutral territory.

That perv was copping a feel, no doubt.

Yeah, I've never accidentally grabbed a dude's dick and thought, "I should really dig my fingers in now."

[Abaddon_ire]

As a man, I have been in circumstances where one ends up with an arm around a lady previously unknown. One always makes sure that hands end up in neutral territory.

That perv was copping a feel, no doubt.

Yeah, I've never accidentally grabbed a dude's dick and thought, "I should really dig my fingers in now."

Well. I am 50. In that time, unintended contact has occurred. The immediate reaction from me is "Oh crap sorry" and the immediate response is "That's OK" because it was unintentional on both sides. Somebody tripped, shoved, stumbled or whatever. And there it stops. The Rev with Ariana? That was plain creepy. To me, the natural placement is either shoulders or somewhere in the hip/waist region. And that is it. Full stop. Anyone going further is to me intentionally doing it. And those holy men have priors. Bastages.

A school friend of mine suicided because of the holy rape. It was covered up.

[Shell B]

I've definitely accidentally touched a boob more than once. It's definitely a "Shit. My bad." situation that everyone recovers from with an awkward smile. No one ever lingers unless they mean to.

Sorry to hear about your friend.

[Brian37]

I have to make a correction. Yes not even I am perfect. Both Aretha's and McCain's memorials got covered this weekend. For some stupid reason I thought Ariana sang at the McCain services. But that still does not make me wrong about saying if one was not the organizer or the invite, then how those who do it, is none of your business, including what someone wears or sings.

I may have hated Ivanka being at McCain's services, but again, I am not the McCain family, even if I think Graham took advantage of them by making the request Ivanka be allowed to attend knowing how the McCains feel about her dad.

Point is, in both cases, only the organizers and the invites have a say in both cases.

Getting pissed about how an event goes, wedding or funeral, when you are not part of it, is petty. It is also the same argument we make about theists and things like how to celebrate a holiday or what food someone can or cannot eat. Just because you are on a diet, does not mean you get to dictate to others what food they eat.

[Losty]

Yeabut, what does that have to do with this thread?

[Fireball]

I understand how uncomfortable stilettos are for women, but there's nothing like a whole bunch of pressure in a small location to get some groper's attention. And that bishop is CLEARLY groping.

[LadyForCamus]

Yeabut, what does that have to do with this thread?

Lol, when does it ever?

[Aegon]

Also, Huggy...🙄🙄🙄

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/colum...story.html

White men largely created the myth that black men should be feared, as a means of dehumanizing them and keeping them enslaved. The stereotype has persisted through generations, though the implications today often are more subtle, and in many cases, subconscious.

Questlove, drummer for the Roots and bandleader on “The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon,” wrote a few years ago about his encounter with a frightened white woman on an elevator in his upscale New York apartment building. In a polite gesture, he asked what floor she was going to and she froze in silence. All he wanted to do was push the elevator button for her, but she acted as though his intentions were more sinister.

Longtime Congressman Elijah Cummings once said he crosses the street at night in Washington when white women are walking toward him to avoid making them feel uncomfortable.
These are scenarios that many African-American men encounter every day because in society’s eyes, they are assumed to be bad guys. Meanwhile, powerful white men have been shielded even in cases where they are dangerous predators.

Again, a black man putting his arm around a white woman is basically interpreted as sexual assault, If Ariana Grande feels she was groped, let her be the one to say it.

I think that article is 100% correct. But you're applying it to a situation that it is not relevant to.

[Huggy Bear]

As a man, I have been in circumstances where one ends up with an arm around a lady previously unknown. One always makes sure that hands end up in neutral territory.

That perv was copping a feel, no doubt.

Yeah, I've never accidentally grabbed a dude's dick and thought, "I should really dig my fingers in now."

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His fingers were digging into her like a bowling ball. No one who isn't a predator does more than the light touch, fingers uncurled, when doing a friendly side hug. Fuck that guy.

It doesn't matter if she felt like it was inappropriate, though that is important in another way, he WAS being inappropriate.

As a man, I have been in circumstances where one ends up with an arm around a lady previously unknown. One always makes sure that hands end up in neutral territory.

That perv was copping a feel, no doubt.