Little rant regarding the kneeling thing.

[Brian37]

America is strange!

Hijacked by experts in selling fear. Just like Iran and Saudi Arabia fear change. 

But please don't say all of America. There are plenty of sane people who know the far right are needlessly fearful and gullible.

[Fake Messiah]

America is strange!

[Foxaèr]

The topic is free speech. The response is, you don't care about mass shootings. Figure it out for yourself. 

The argument made sense, yet you convoluted it.

[Chad32]

Colin Kapernick is doing Nike ads, and people are burning shoes. Of course this is related to the whole kneeling thing, and I feel like venting.

I don't know what football has to do with soldiers, or what people think the soldiers are fighting and dying for, but apparently the first amendment freedoms don't make that list. If you think soldiers are fighting for freedom, why isn't free speech and protest included?

Free speech is included. They, you or anyone can kneel or say whatever you like. But if other people think you're an asshole for so doing, they can call you an asshole. Or if you're trying to sell entertainment or shoes, people can buy or not buy as they please.

WTF do you act like people protesting the protesters are any different?

How do you protest protesting? That's discrimination. You can disagree with Colin, but having him fired, and expecting him not to find other work is wrong.

[Fake Messiah]

The topic is free speech. The response is, you don't care about mass shootings. Figure it out for yourself. 

 The argument made sense, yet you convoluted it.

Except the ad is in trouble because guy in the ad is against mass shootings and yet a.m. is oblivious to the connection. Go figure.

[CapnAwesome]

WTF do you act like people protesting the protesters are any different?

Because those protestors find a shoe ad controversial while they don't care about mass shootings.

You have no idea if that's true or not.

[Brian37]

Because those protestors find a shoe ad controversial while they don't care about mass shootings.

It's really no wonder that the country has gone so Republican.

HOLY 1984 BATMAN,

For someone who has consistently cried foul now suddenly you are not a "republican"?

Please tell us liberals how to do it, please. 

You, "Just let the politics become scapegoating, nothing bad will happen."

It still remains MORON, that when one holds a seat of power, especially a high seat of power, you DONT use 45's tactics. There is a far different role between private free speech, and a RESPONSIBILITY in political office to avoid the rhetoric of despots and dictators. 45 isn't telling it like it is, he is trying to silence any challenge to his power.

[CapnAwesome]

I'm not sure that burning Nikes is the same as saying that someone doesn't have the right to free speech. I mean you can't get inside the minds of every person, so the motives are probably diverse, hut I think they are mostly saying they don't like Colin whatever his name is. ( I don't watch football, or in general care about any of this. )

That would be like me saying that you don't support free speech either, because you think people don't have a right to burn Nikes.

In reality I suspect that's not what you are saying, but rather that you don't like those people or don't like what they are doing. It not the same

Also isn't it ironic that I would wager most people who think YouTube can censor Alex Jones (because somehow it's not censorship if corporation does it) don't think the NFL should be allowed to censor their employees at work.

So I just see a bunch of hypocrisy on both sides with no moral consistency whatsoever.

Yeah, it's not so much about the nikes. Do whatever you want to things you bought. But they're vilifying Colin for exercising a basic American right. As for censoring Alex Jones, I imagine it's because he's a wacko, but he's far from the only one. I'm not sure why they targeted him specifically, since I didn't pay attention to any stories about it, or the recent thread here.

Who is the arbitrator of who I'd a wacko or not?

Free speech is free speech. If free speech only applies to the speech you like, it's not free speech.

If you subscribe to the argument that corporations should be the arbitrator of free speech (for whatever reason, most left wing people seem fine with this with Alex Jones and not Colin) then at least be consistent with that argument.

Instead the exact same people who say YouTube not only can, but should censor certain people, don't feel like the NFL has that right.

No moral consistency whatsoever.

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It's really no wonder that the country has gone so Republican.

HOLY 1984 BATMAN,

For someone who has consistently cried foul now suddenly you are not a "republican"?

Please tell us liberals how to do it, please. 

You, "Just let the politics become scapegoating, nothing bad will happen."

It still remains MORON, that when one holds a seat of power, especially a high seat of power, you DONT use 45's tactics. There is a far different role between private free speech, and a RESPONSIBILITY in political office to avoid the rhetoric of despots and dictators. 45 isn't telling it like it is, he is trying to silence any challenge to his power.

Do you ever find it ironic that YOUR posts are witten with the EXACT same style as TRUMP's tweets??!!!!!!

[Brian37]

Being a historian by trade I've seen this before. die Party comes before the law.

I thought we were supposed to learn from history so as to not repeat it.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Being a historian by trade I've seen this before. die Party comes before the law.

I thought we were supposed to learn from history so as to not repeat it.

Read carefully: Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.