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RE: Are there any Christian proselytizers left in this subforum?
September 28, 2018 at 9:49 am
(September 28, 2018 at 9:12 am)possibletarian Wrote: I'm surprised that they asked for a safe space on an atheist forum, isn't that the opposite of what their god promised them.
Yeah! That's like me going into a church with my willy out, and...
I guess it's not much like that.
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RE: Are there any Christian proselytizers left in this subforum?
September 28, 2018 at 9:53 am
(September 28, 2018 at 9:49 am)robvalue Wrote: (September 28, 2018 at 9:12 am)possibletarian Wrote: I'm surprised that they asked for a safe space on an atheist forum, isn't that the opposite of what their god promised them.
Yeah! That's like me going into a church with my willy out, and...
I guess it's not much like that.
. . . and here I thought I was the only one (aside from clergy, of course).
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RE: Are there any Christian proselytizers left in this subforum?
September 28, 2018 at 10:08 am
So they make a big thing about getting a safe space here and once they get it they fuck off?
Looks like all they want to do is conquer.
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RE: Are there any Christian proselytizers left in this subforum?
September 28, 2018 at 12:43 pm
(September 28, 2018 at 9:12 am)possibletarian Wrote: I'm surprised that they asked for a safe space on an atheist forum, isn't that the opposite of what their god promised them.
No one asked for a “safe space”. This was the interpretation of some to a request for a civil section of the forum where civility would be enforced and serious discussions could be had. The conclusion seemed to be, that civility, accurately representing another’s position, and not demeaning others is too much an encumbrance to the atheists view and that it was just a tactic to silence them and not allow questioning. Again; no one was asking for a safe space, but a civil one.
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RE: Are there any Christian proselytizers left in this subforum?
September 28, 2018 at 12:55 pm
(September 28, 2018 at 7:03 am)Mathilda Wrote: (September 26, 2018 at 9:56 pm)Fireball Wrote: The brainwashing firehose he received removed everything but part of the cerebellum and the entire medulla oblongata. Else he'd be dead...er.
No because remember according to Drich, the brain is a big antennae for commands from the soul with absolutely no latency whatsoever.
Of course the physical mechanism by which these commands get transmitted, received and decoded and signals sent back to an alternative plane of existence is an open research question. But it does mean that we can control toy cars with thought power alone.
Personally when we get to find out how this all works in practice, I'm looking forward to building an electronic jamming device to flood the airwaves with confusing signals so people lose control of their bowels.
(September 27, 2018 at 11:04 am)Kit Wrote: I suppose we'll be seeing more of Drich since TTA is closing. YAY?
Nah. He got hounded out of there back in 2014.
Of course now that TTA is closing down, records of his embarrassment will be lost.
There are plenty of such records here. Dripshit is an asshole everywhere, not just here.
Quote:where civility would be enforced and serious discussions could be had.
Serious discussions about childish fairy tales? I imagine you having a straight face when you wrote that.
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RE: Are there any Christian proselytizers left in this subforum?
September 28, 2018 at 2:52 pm
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Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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RE: Are there any Christian proselytizers left in this subforum?
September 28, 2018 at 3:18 pm
(September 28, 2018 at 12:43 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (September 28, 2018 at 9:12 am)possibletarian Wrote: I'm surprised that they asked for a safe space on an atheist forum, isn't that the opposite of what their god promised them.
No one asked for a “safe space”. This was the interpretation of some to a request for a civil section of the forum where civility would be enforced and serious discussions could be had. The conclusion seemed to be, that civility, accurately representing another’s position, and not demeaning others is too much an encumbrance to the atheists view and that it was just a tactic to silence them and not allow questioning. Again; no one was asking for a safe space, but a civil one.
Correct. And for anyone wondering, this is the thread in question where I made the suggestion for a civility subsection geared towards productive discussion among both atheists and theists alike: https://atheistforums.org/thread-54693.html
As far as the debate thread between myself and 5 other Christians, that was a completely separate thing. We were utilizing the debate section of the forum, and Tibs and Vulcan were moderating the debate. Anyone can utilize the debate section. It has nothing to do with safe spaces.
Anyway, that's all.
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September 28, 2018 at 3:45 pm
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(September 28, 2018 at 12:43 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (September 28, 2018 at 9:12 am)possibletarian Wrote: I'm surprised that they asked for a safe space on an atheist forum, isn't that the opposite of what their god promised them.
No one asked for a “safe space”. This was the interpretation of some to a request for a civil section of the forum where civility would be enforced and serious discussions could be had. The conclusion seemed to be, that civility, accurately representing another’s position, and not demeaning others is too much an encumbrance to the atheists view and that it was just a tactic to silence them and not allow questioning. Again; no one was asking for a safe space, but a civil one.
Just to be absolutely clear on this point...
A number of members, including both Christian and Non-Christians, were pushing for some kind of subforum for "civil" conversations devoid of insults and such. I was strongly against it. My position was this. AF has a perfectly good Debate Forum where self-selected groups can agree on ground rules for discussion in a moderated environment.
I organized such a discussion. It was set-up as a panel discussion among Christians to discuss a topic relevant to Christians. The topic was why Christians participate on AF. Some non-Christian members were upset because they weren't invited. Other non-Christian members didn't appreciate the existence of a discussion they couldn't derail. And a couple non-Christians were appalled that Christians would consider fulfilling their duty in the Great Commission as one of their reasons for contributing to AF.
It became clear to me, from comments on the parallel 'peanut gallery' thread and private messages, that a very sizable number of prominent AF members resented our presence on AF. People I thought were my friends, or who I respected despite our philosophical differences, actually held me in contempt...not just forum trash talk or playful banter,...no, real true contempt. My experience was not unique. Other Christian members seemed equally dismayed. Lots of PMs were exchanged. Many of us believers have either scaled back, withdrawn, or opted out entirely.
Personally, I was left feeling very sad. I wondered how I could have been so wrong about my interactions with others. Occasionally there is a topic that interests me. I often write replies but log-off before posting them. I don't know what the point is anymore.
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RE: Are there any Christian proselytizers left in this subforum?
September 28, 2018 at 4:03 pm
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(September 26, 2018 at 8:55 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (September 26, 2018 at 11:36 am)Drich Wrote: I'm here almost everyday.I just pick and choose what I respond to. I try and deal with questions and not statements. I found if you are declaring something you mind is already closed. you are just telling people what you think. Honestly I don't care what most of you think. how ever if you have a question or series of questions I will answer them.
Hi Drich, Glad that you jumped in! I don't have any questions, other than wondering why you continue to believe in any of this stuff?
Because he is so utterly stupid that the only thing to be found they is so utterly unscrupulous and so completely accustomed to lying as to tell the likes of him that he is smart would be Christianity.
(September 27, 2018 at 10:44 am)alpha male Wrote: Personally I've decided to quit casting pearls before swine, so I'm staying out of the religion section except for the occasional atheist who isn't completely hostile, like LfC.
Is that what you call your feces that cast at zoo goers?.
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RE: Are there any Christian proselytizers left in this subforum?
September 29, 2018 at 4:32 am
(September 27, 2018 at 10:44 am)alpha male Wrote: Personally I've decided to quit casting pearls before swine,
Says a guy that puts lipstick on pigs every day and votes for pigs.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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