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RE: Question about permanent death
September 30, 2018 at 8:00 pm
(September 30, 2018 at 2:25 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Are there atheists here who believe that there is some sort of afterlife? I personally still believe that there is something in afterlife, even if I dislike the idea.
There's no concrete evidence of any sort of afterlife. As much as I would like to believe that I would be reunited with my loved ones upon my own death, I have to accept the fact that there isn't such a place. And I'm okay with that.
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RE: Question about permanent death
September 30, 2018 at 8:10 pm
(September 30, 2018 at 4:03 pm)Reltzik Wrote: I have been informed several times that as an atheist I am constrained by solipsism. That means that upon my death the world will cease to exist. Ergo, there is nothing after life.
Which is perfectly true if you take the personal viewpoint.
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RE: Question about permanent death
September 30, 2018 at 11:33 pm
(September 30, 2018 at 2:29 pm)no one Wrote: Not for me. Perhaps the energy that flows through me, is recycled. But, I'll be dead.
Yep, I expect the best I can do toward reincarnation is compost. Too bad we're so taxic though, at least us oldies.
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RE: Question about permanent death
September 30, 2018 at 11:52 pm
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(September 30, 2018 at 11:33 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (September 30, 2018 at 2:29 pm)no one Wrote: Not for me. Perhaps the energy that flows through me, is recycled. But, I'll be dead.
Yep, I expect the best I can do toward reincarnation is compost. Too bad we're so taxic though, at least us oldies.
The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out...
Not for me. I'm donating my sorry carcass so that grown women can faint at the size of my penis (Vienna Sausage! Those are SO good, I loved them as a child!. And just look, it comes with a pair of garbanzo beans!"). Then I'm going to use up the rest of my carbon footprint allotment by getting cremated.
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RE: Question about permanent death
October 1, 2018 at 12:02 am
There are so many different things to believe in. I’m sure there are atheists who believe in some sort of afterlife, but I’m not one of them
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RE: Question about permanent death
October 1, 2018 at 12:51 am
(September 30, 2018 at 8:00 pm)Joods Wrote: (September 30, 2018 at 2:25 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Are there atheists here who believe that there is some sort of afterlife? I personally still believe that there is something in afterlife, even if I dislike the idea.
There's no concrete evidence of any sort of afterlife.
Indeed, there is not. That being the case, I default to believe my conscious existence will end with the death of my body.
I'm far from sure of that though.
I don't have the slightest doubt that man-made religions like the ludicrous Abrahamic faiths are fantasy but I can think of many other possibilities I cannot dismiss so easily:
1. We may be living in a simulation. We may all be characters in a cosmic video game. I used to look at the existence of the fucking idiotic leaf blower as evidence of that but now I have even better evidence: Donald Trump is the President of the United States. The game master got bored and decided to really shake things up.
2. The age and expanse of the universe virtually guarantee the existence of beings so advanced beyond us, we could not distinguish them from God. Their only limitations would be those imposed by the laws of physics. If they were so inclined and the laws of physics allowed them to do so, they could intervene on the death of each of us and provide us with an afterlife.
3. Thought may be a primal force in the universe. I never would have considered this before joining this forum (and I'm still very skeptical of it) but some members here (bennyboy? comes to mind) have forced me to consider it.
There is a saying generally credited to the British geneticist and evolutionary biologist J.B.S. Haldane: The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine.
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RE: Question about permanent death
October 1, 2018 at 1:07 am
Quote:A survey compiled in 2014 by The Austin Institute for the Study of Family and Culture (AISFC) reveals that 32 percent of Americans who identified themselves as agnostics and atheists believe in an afterlife of some kind. In addition, 6 percent of the same non-theistic group expressed a belief in a “bodily resurrection”. These numbers were taken from a sample of 15,738 Americans, all of which were between the ages of 18 and 60. According to the data, 13.2 percent of Americans identify themselves as atheist, agnostic, or some other variation of non-believing.
SGU || Survey: 32% of Atheists & Agnostics Believe in an Afterlife
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RE: Question about permanent death
October 1, 2018 at 1:40 am
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There are plenty that think that, yeah. I don't think many atheists who have joined here believe it though.
My problem with it isn't just one of evidence, but of coherence. What does it even mean, in non-fantasy terms? What is it that is supposed to survive, and how does it make any sense for it to become separate from the physical body?
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RE: Question about permanent death
October 1, 2018 at 5:38 am
(October 1, 2018 at 12:02 am)Losty Wrote: There are so many different things to believe in. I’m sure there are atheists who believe in some sort of afterlife, but I’m not one of them
Eh you.
What are you doing to me?
Didn't you promise me that in the next life you will be my wife?
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RE: Question about permanent death
October 1, 2018 at 5:51 am
As there is no evidence for it, I don't believe in any sort of afterlife. For me personally, having an "afterlife" just cheapens the point of a "before" life. You can do all this crazy shit for like 80-100 years [if you're lucky], then repent on your death bed and go to heaven for ETERNITY? Yeah, fuck that.
I'd rather just enjoy my limited time now thank you.
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