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RE: Federal Judge Orders White House To Temporarily Restore Press Access To Jim Acosta
November 17, 2018 at 7:06 am
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Lower court rulings get overturned all the time, so I wouldn't put too much stock in this ruling just yet.
Freedom of the press is freedom to write. It has nothing to do with freedom of access. If I start a blog on presidential politics and demand a White House hard pass, I'm not going to get it. It's doubtful any judge would give it to me, and if he did, he'd be overturned.
The White House can stop giving press conferences altogether if it pleases.
(November 16, 2018 at 10:30 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: What did Acosta do that was disrespectful?
Two things:
He pushed an intern's arm out of the way when she reached for the microphone. That's the one focused on.
He took up more time than was alotted to him, which is disrespectful to the other reporters in the room. Jim Acosta is mostly about Jim Acosta.
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RE: Federal Judge Orders White House To Temporarily Restore Press Access To Jim Acosta
November 17, 2018 at 8:51 am
I'm still unclear as to what makes the ruling "liberal". Timothy Kelly is a member of the federalist society, and this qualification was the operative bit in trumps apointment of the man to the bench. The federalist society isn't exactly known for liberal positions or readings of anything.
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RE: Federal Judge Orders White House To Temporarily Restore Press Access To Jim Acosta
November 17, 2018 at 8:56 am
Belly-spear makes a good point. 👍
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November 17, 2018 at 9:07 am
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Just as a matter of law, the executive branch is the law, so arguing that the executive branch's actions aren't a matter of law because they aren't an act of congress seems rather ill conceived.
(November 16, 2018 at 11:21 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Such liberal interpretation of the constitution can lead to much of what it was trying to prevent, and can be made to say most anything.
I resent your characterizing it as a liberal issue. It is not. Moreover I find your slippery slope argument without merit. That you may see 'liberal' concerns as threatening the end of civilization as we know it is neither reasonable nor particularly persuasive.
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RE: Federal Judge Orders White House To Temporarily Restore Press Access To Jim Acosta
November 17, 2018 at 9:49 am
Quote:Such liberal interpretation of the constitution can lead to much of what it was trying to prevent, and can be made to say most anything.
Liberal (adj): Any law, court ruling, or custom that makes you uncomfortable.
Conservative (adj): Anything that gives you the warm and fuzzy that nothing will ever, EVER change.
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RE: Federal Judge Orders White House To Temporarily Restore Press Access To Jim Acosta
November 17, 2018 at 11:25 am
(November 17, 2018 at 7:06 am)John V Wrote: Lower court rulings get overturned all the time, so I wouldn't put too much stock in this ruling just yet.
Freedom of the press is freedom to write. It has nothing to do with freedom of access. If I start a blog on presidential politics and demand a White House hard pass, I'm not going to get it. It's doubtful any judge would give it to me, and if he did, he'd be overturned.
The White House can stop giving press conferences altogether if it pleases.
(November 16, 2018 at 10:30 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: What did Acosta do that was disrespectful?
Two things:
He pushed an intern's arm out of the way when she reached for the microphone. That's the one focused on.
He took up more time than was alotted to him, which is disrespectful to the other reporters in the room. Jim Acosta is mostly about Jim Acosta.
I agree with you on the point that he was being disrespectful to his colleagues by talking over them. However, I don’t see how gently pushing away the arm of someone who is in your personal space and attempting to take something out of your hand is disrespectful.
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RE: Federal Judge Orders White House To Temporarily Restore Press Access To Jim Acosta
November 17, 2018 at 11:59 am
(November 17, 2018 at 11:25 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I agree with you on the point that he was being disrespectful to his colleagues by talking over them. However, I don’t see how gently pushing away the arm of someone who is in your personal space and attempting to take something out of your hand is disrespectful.
Suppose you lend someone your phone. You say you want it back, and reach over for it. They push you away.
I'd bet you'd find that disrespectful.
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RE: Federal Judge Orders White House To Temporarily Restore Press Access To Jim Acosta
November 17, 2018 at 12:01 pm
(November 17, 2018 at 11:59 am)John V Wrote: (November 17, 2018 at 11:25 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I agree with you on the point that he was being disrespectful to his colleagues by talking over them. However, I don’t see how gently pushing away the arm of someone who is in your personal space and attempting to take something out of your hand is disrespectful.
Suppose you lend someone your phone. You say you want it back, and reach over for it. They push you away.
I'd bet you'd find that disrespectful.
Assertiveness does not necessarily equal disrespect.
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RE: Federal Judge Orders White House To Temporarily Restore Press Access To Jim Acosta
November 17, 2018 at 12:02 pm
I'm not sure that respect would fare well in an explanation of what metrics or process this administration is using.
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RE: Federal Judge Orders White House To Temporarily Restore Press Access To Jim Acosta
November 17, 2018 at 12:07 pm
(November 17, 2018 at 12:01 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Assertiveness does not necessarily equal disrespect.
Agreed...but it does in this case.
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