Is atheism a belief?

[Magilla]

[Rahn127]

Huggy - It's hard for me to type your name and not think of diapers.

But let me try to explain the whole theism and atheism thing to you.

Let's pretend theism is believing that you are constantly wearing an invisible, intangible hat upon your head.

I don't believe that I'm constantly wearing an invisible, intangible hat upon my head. <-----This non belief makes me an atheist.

[Fireball]

Huggy - It's hard for me to type your name and not think of diapers.

But let me try to explain the whole theism and atheism thing to you.

Let's pretend theism is believing that you are constantly wearing an invisible, intangible hat upon your head.

I don't believe that I'm constantly wearing an invisible, intangible hat upon my head. <-----This non belief makes me an atheist.

I consider him ineducable, and told him so a few weeks ago. There is little difference between that and trolling intent (IMO), except that without actually admitting to trolling, he won't get banned. People don't get banned for being stupid (like Little Rik, until he admitted/bragged about trolling). More's the pity.

[Angrboda]

I don't know what you've heard, but AFAIK, Little Rik never copped to trolling.

[Fireball]

I don't know what you've heard, but AFAIK, Little Rik never copped to trolling.

I've never made a mistake in my life!   I could have read it wrong.

[Agnostico]

   This is the 1st problem with atheism. There’s no agreement on what it actually means. In all the major dictionaries the definition is basically the same. The Scandinavian atheists I’ve spoken to abide by this. Not so the Americans for some reason.


   U can try and reword it into a “non-belief” but it’s the same thing. If u don’t believe in a God then u must believe there are no Gods. This is a fallacious argument, equivocation. Basically redefining a term leading to false conclusion.

   Who can explain the difference between “I don’t believe in God” and “I believe there is no God”. They’re the same. The negative is just swapped around.


   These unicorn type analogies are logical fallacies, faulty analogies. No one is claiming unicorns exist whereas nearly everyone who has walked the earth since documented history has believed in a God. But I can still take that analogy and say “I believe there are no unicorns”. It’s still a belief.


   To the question “Do u believe in a God?” people are saying it’s either yes or no. This is yet another logical fallacy, black and white. There is always a third option, “I don’t know”


   But I’ll go along with it for argument sake. One of my questions was if it’s not a belief then what do we call it? If someone answered that I apologize cos I missed it. Do we call it a claim? I’ll call it a claim. 

   So most atheist hold their claim because the theists cannot prove it. It’s another logical fallacy, appeal to ignorance. “U can’t prove it so it must be false”

   Others simply claim it’s too hard to believe so I won’t believe it. This is logical fallacy, personal incredulity.

   Another popular argument from atheists is to wave the burden of truth to the theists. As far as I know this is not a logical fallacy. However if ur having the discussion with an agnostic like myself then the burden of proof lies on the atheist as he is the one making the assertion that there are no gods.

   There are a lot of fallacious arguments put forward by atheists making their position a weak one at this stage.


   A Scandinavian atheist I was talking to said something like…”I find it funny how atheists in America organize these huge functions to talk about no God. To talk about nothing” And we had a laugh about it. But I saw that video of atheist churches. LoL sorry if I sound rude but that is just so weird. A church without a God. Does that mean atheism is in fact a religion? Sure looks like it to me.


   Someone asked what I meant by Christian values but that deserves another thread later on once iv figured out a few more things. I’ll let this thread die out a bit and I will open a new one on science.

[ignoramus]

Matey, you're making a few fallacies yourself.

Firstly, you'll find most here are agnostic. We don't have knowledge either way.
Secondly, why call it a claim. We're not claiming anything. We don't have or need a burden of proof for this reason.
Atheism is just saying we don't subscribe to what theists believe.
We don't need to have a counter belief. It's a non stance. Get it?

[Agnostico]

Matey, you're making a few fallacies yourself.

Firstly, you'll find most here are agnostic. We don't have knowledge either way.
Secondly, why call it a claim. We're not claiming anything. We don't have or need a burden of proof for this reason.
Atheism is just saying we don't subscribe to what theists believe.
We don't need to have a counter belief. It's a non stance. Get it?

Then how would u like me to refer to it then?
A view? A position? A stance? A belief?
Its up to u. Ur inventing the definition

And please call out any fallacious arguments I made

[Huggy Bear]

Huggy - It's hard for me to type your name and not think of diapers.

But let me try to explain the whole theism and atheism thing to you.

Let's pretend theism is believing that you are constantly wearing an invisible, intangible hat upon your head.

I don't believe that I'm constantly wearing an invisible, intangible hat upon my head. <-----This non belief makes me an atheist.

I consider him ineducable, and told him so a few weeks ago. There is little difference between that and trolling intent (IMO), except that without actually admitting to trolling, he won't get banned. People don't get banned for being stupid (like Little Rik, until he admitted/bragged about trolling). More's the pity.

If people were banned for being stupid, y'all would start dropping like flies...

No mammals lay eggs.

[DeistPaladin]

In a nutshell:
Agnosticism is about what you don't know. 
Atheism is about what you don't believe.