trying to leave Christianity permanently, please help

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Sorry to hear about your struggles. Right out of college I had the privilege to work with people with mental health issues. Pretty much all of them were experiencing bipolar disorder or schizophrenia. A lot of them were also experiencing major depression. I even went through my own bout in life where I went through depression. Two of the first things I would start with when working with my clients was to have them identify what they knew to be true about who they are. The second thing was to understand you have a condition, but don't use that as the basis for forming your identity. Sometimes a person can get diagnosed with something. So suddenly they go for being Jack or Sally to being "schizophrenic", when the condition is just one aspect of who Jack and Sally really are as a whole.

I should tell you as well that I am a Christian. As such, the idea of RFID chips and stuff like that is probably not worth being fearful over. It's better to focus on who we are in the present, and how to deal with those things in the best possible way. If I woke up in the morning and pondered beasts, new world orders, and RFID chips, I would probably work myself into a frenzy and not get anything productive done. Instead, I wake up and get food for the dogs and the cats, take care of myself, clean, and then move on to other responsibilities and interests. I'm sure there are things you enjoy that you could make good use of your time focusing on instead.

Aside from that, just want to say - Nice to meet you.

[GrandizerII]

Oh I will be honest though, I'm scared of the prophecies in Revelations about the Mark of the Beast because I can totally see how it could be an RFID chip and I know the possibility of a New World Order, One World Government is definitely the direction we're headed in and merging with technology and it freaks me out. I don't see it as being a good thing for humanity sorry to say and that might upset some people here but I don't trust giving that much power to the most power hungry of us humans. they unfortunately usually don't have benevolent intentions(think Psychopaths....high level psychopaths.....I don't trust the low level ones and definitely not the high level ones lol)

Revelation doesn't predict any of this, though. You are confusing modern fundamentalist interpretations of Revelation (based on what we see [and get paranoid about] in modern times) with the original intended interpretation of Revelation, and I can guarantee you the original interpretation has nothing about RFID chips and New World Order and such because these are modern concepts that emerged centuries after Revelation was written.

So whatever bad stuff may ensue from the fusion of humans with AI or whatever, it's got nothing to do with the Christian god.

[Cod]

Hi, I'm new here, I'm 24 female and I was raised christian and then stopped believing and became atheist and that was too depressing for me at the time so then I was agnostic and researched a little into other religions and then got majorly into New Age, and then came back around to following christianity 3 months ago because New Age was mostly lies and I thought it was demonic and I missed how I felt when I was little and everything was easy and I could just trust in Jesus, except I had forgotten why I stopped believing in the first place and it's because I have mental disorders(bipolar II, borderline pd, depression, introversion) that made it impossible for me to be the good and perfect Christian I wanted to be. and now I'm back in the same position and it seems like God created me with no chance of being able to be good enough just to damn me. and I really really don't want to believe in Christianity. help please

Hi, try to concentrate on getting yourself mentally well first, then maybe your thoughts will become clearer on the faith issue.

Welcome to the forums btw.

[Angrboda]

I don't think God expects people to be "good little Christians" or be damned. My understanding of mainstream Christianity is that a) nobody is perfect, and b) salvation comes through faith in Jesus Christ. Are you sure you've understood the Christian message correctly?

[GrandizerII]

I don't think God expects people to be "good little Christians" or be damned.  My understanding of mainstream Christianity is that a) nobody is perfect, and b) salvation comes through faith in Jesus Christ.  Are you sure you've understood the Christian message correctly?

Depends on branch/denomination. Not all mainstream branches/denominations affirm the "once saved, always saved" doctrine. Catholicism is a clear example.

[onlinebiker]

The thing to remember about " prophecy" - is if you say some vague shit, and wait long enough - some dolt is eventually going to come along and " discover your prophecy".

Never mind you didn't mean it that way.


The " discoverer" is simply some twat who wants to look important.


When somebody can predict an event' s time, place and who is involved - and be specific - then MAYBE you have a prophet.


A con artist is more likely.

[GGG]

i recommend to you -just read Bible - read it whole, critical, take notes - and you see will how horrible this text is. I myself becomes atheist (i was christian, then agnostic before) only after reading the bible - the best way to leave any religion forever. btw you'll be surprised that almost nobody from christians even know what inside this book - they never read it.

[T0 Th3 M4X]

i recommend to you -just read Bible - read it whole, critical, take notes - and you see will how horrible this text is.  I myself becomes atheist (i was christian, then agnostic before) only after reading the bible - the best way to leave any religion forever. btw you'll be surprised  that almost nobody from christians even know what inside this book - they never read it.

Maybe you read and didn't understand.  Seems to be a more logical explanation.

[Cod]

i recommend to you -just read Bible - read it whole, critical, take notes - and you see will how horrible this text is.  I myself becomes atheist (i was christian, then agnostic before) only after reading the bible - the best way to leave any religion forever. btw you'll be surprised  that almost nobody from christians even know what inside this book - they never read it.

Maybe you read and didn't understand.  Seems to be a more logical explanation.

Maybe if your bible/handbook made any sense, was non contradictory and was easy to understand, then every reader would come to the same conclusion wouldn't they?

[GGG]

i recommend to you -just read Bible - read it whole, critical, take notes - and you see will how horrible this text is.  I myself becomes atheist (i was christian, then agnostic before) only after reading the bible - the best way to leave any religion forever. btw you'll be surprised  that almost nobody from christians even know what inside this book - they never read it.

Maybe you read and didn't understand.  Seems to be a more logical explanation.

haha no no i did understand. "and God says - "kill all 40 towns with children  and women and oldmen and make it your own land". It s not too hard to understand

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