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The downside of automotive technology
#31
RE: The downside of automotive technology
(January 15, 2019 at 2:40 pm)Mr.Obvious Wrote:
(January 15, 2019 at 1:16 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Ever known someone to scam an emissions testing??

Those systems are laughably simplistic compared to the AI systems now being used - and you can expect future systems to be more complex, and more expensive. You can count on the costs of maintenance of such equipment being a major part of the expenditures for that vehicle.

Count on people thinking - "Can I get by without it"???

Count on people dying because of new technologies? And accompagnying neglect? Sure. But like how a seatbelt might choke THE occasional person, their addition saves lives. And THE introduction of boilers had poisoned countless people, but also saves many developing deadly pnumonia and freezing of to death.
Comparing a seat belt to a collision avoidence system is like comparing a bottle rocket to the space shuttle.

A seat belt isn' t likely to get otherwise sane people to learn and practice very risky behavior - like tailgating. If the car can react faster than you - you will learn to trust the collision avoidance - and you will maintain closer following distances than are humanly safe to do.

When those systems fail - take a guess what happens???
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#32
RE: The downside of automotive technology
(January 15, 2019 at 4:58 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(January 15, 2019 at 2:40 pm)Mr.Obvious Wrote: Count on people dying because of new technologies? And accompagnying neglect? Sure. But like how a seatbelt might choke THE occasional person, their addition saves lives. And THE introduction of boilers had poisoned countless people, but also saves many developing deadly pnumonia and freezing of to death.
Comparing a seat belt to a collision avoidence system is like comparing a bottle rocket to the space shuttle.

A seat belt isn' t likely to get otherwise sane people to learn and practice very risky behavior - like tailgating. If the car can react faster than you - you will learn to trust the collision avoidance - and you will maintain closer following distances than are humanly safe to do.

When those systems fail - take a guess what happens???

And what happens when you have someone driving a car drunk?
Or if a buschauffeur has a heart-attack on the highway? 
Or if you simply miscalculate the distance yourself? You never ever had a fender bender. No-one in your family or friends. Humans make mistakes. Computers too, but if they tend to outperform humans... well...

That's all I've been saying mate. You act like we should distrust these systems because they might fail. But you seem to turn a blind eye to the systems that our own bodies are limited to. If computerized systems outperform human systems and create a safer world throughout the board and consistently, and only then, I would urge for them to take over. 
You don't have to convince me computers are not infallible. But humans are fallible too. So it becomes a matter of which fallible system causes least damage and death on the road. And guess what, not only do I think there might one day be computers who can drive more safely than I can. (I'm not a really good driver.) I think one day there can be computers that can drive more safely than you can. And for my safety, if it's been shown to be so, I'd prefer that to take the wheel over you.
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#33
RE: The downside of automotive technology
Here's an article explaining how driver assist technology might be making drivers worse. There are a ton of these articles out there.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/features/how-new-...-1.3823118
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