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RE: PTSD caused by religion
January 31, 2019 at 12:16 pm
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IOW the church doesn't become the cure for anything. Thanks, Drich, for telling us that the asshole who claimed as much was full of shit. Carry on.
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RE: PTSD caused by religion
January 31, 2019 at 12:25 pm
There is a certain amount of validity to what Drich is saying. The LGBT alliance is frequently an uneasy alliance. The Ls, the Gs, the Bs, and the Ts all have somewhat different issues and different approaches to issues. And within those divisions there are subdivisions. In general, the gay men dominate the alliance and they have sometimes been pretty forceful other members of the alliance. For example, gay men became very pushy with 'Out and Proud' once some of them decided that it was a line that had to be toed by every member of the alliance. They outed members of the alliance who weren't living 'out and proud' lives. These guys would literally stalk closeted members of the alliance and out them to employers, family, and friends. It really became war when gay men discovered that many transsexuals did not want to be outed. The issues of transsexuals are a bit different. A person who was born male and transitioned to female just wants to get on with their life as a woman. It is sort of hard to just get on with your life as a woman when some gay guys decide that you must publicly identify as a transsexual. In the late 90s and early 2000s, gay men were disrupting the private lives of transsexuals pretty maliciously, because they felt that transsexuals weren't toeing the 'out and proud' line.
So yes, there are some people who are LGBT who want to distance themselves from the community for various reasons. And the community does sometimes get a bit stalker-like with individuals who have left the community or distanced themselves from the community. The LGBT community is not very kind to members who leave. Some of them will stalk former members, and drop info bombs with the former member's employer, family, friends, and the general public.
I have been traumatized by this. I experienced the height of gay men harassing transsexuals who were just trying to get on with their lives. To this day, I have rather violent feelings toward gay men because of this. The cisgender men basically left me alone. It was the gay men who insisted that my life was their business and everyone's business. And I still feel violent when I think about it.
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RE: PTSD caused by religion
January 31, 2019 at 12:27 pm
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I must have missed the part where drich was referring to any of that as he expounded on how gay men and women go to churches so that they can make babies and "cure" their "lifestyles".
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RE: PTSD caused by religion
February 1, 2019 at 2:07 am
(January 30, 2019 at 6:35 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Churches have absolutely no success at "curing" the gay, but they're pretty good at producing Ted Haggards!
Wrong I know a man who came out of the life style and it was his relationship with God that helped him, he is actually writing a book for those who want to leave the gay community and live a hetro life style. This man lived with us last winter when it was to cold for someone to sleep in their car, so yes I've had opportunity to talk with him.
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RE: PTSD caused by religion
February 1, 2019 at 7:13 am
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Christians and their ridiculous product testimonials.
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RE: PTSD caused by religion
February 3, 2019 at 4:10 pm
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It really depends. However, it is highly unlikely. PTSD is something that involves a serious trauma. Sure, religion does some crazy stuff to people. And unless that person was involved in some kind of bizarre cult then probably no.
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RE: PTSD caused by religion
February 3, 2019 at 8:51 pm
Drich do you know that we can say the same thing about "straight lifestyle"? The problem is that you emphasize on the gay or straight but that is not relevant, what is relevant is the lifestyle. Given the stigma around the LGBT community, stigma that comes from people like you, some members may think that being gay is the problem but actually the current lifestyle may be the problem. Lifestyle that isn't toxic because they are gay.
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