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Poll: How should we deal with flat-Earthers?
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Ignore them
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24 60.00%
Debate them with evidence and reason
27.50%
11 27.50%
Other
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5 12.50%
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Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
#71
RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
Does borrowed knowledge mean you have to give it back?

That is one of the most stupid terms I have heard used.

Yon, congrats...you are now the troll I always knew you would be eventually.

Say Libtard one more time and you will almost meet the number of 'Um, no" that is frequently dumped on around the forum.

Your vocabulary is becoming Trumpesque.
  
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#72
RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(March 14, 2019 at 6:00 pm)fredd bear Wrote:
(March 14, 2019 at 4:21 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: No, I didn't. Repeating an experiment yourself is when knowledge is no longer borrowed.

Oh for fuck sake!

"Borrowed knowledge" ? All formally acquired knowledge is "borrowed"

Let me make a wild guess; You did not attend college/university?

Oh for fuck's sake. You have reading comprehension problems.
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#73
RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(March 14, 2019 at 7:37 pm)Yonadav Wrote:
(March 14, 2019 at 6:00 pm)fredd bear Wrote: Oh for fuck sake!

"Borrowed knowledge" ? All formally acquired knowledge is "borrowed"

Let me make a wild guess; You did not attend college/university?

Oh for fuck's sake. You have reading comprehension problems.

Actually, I don't have problems with comprehension. I sometimes misunderstand, or perhaps do not read as thoroughly as I should.


I'll go back and read the whole thread from the beginning. If I see I have made a mistake, I'll apologise.

(March 13, 2019 at 9:51 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Santa Claus does not exist, and there is no Easter Bunny
You'll find out when you grow up that Big Bird isn't funny, funny, funny.

 I once sent a very rational female friend a photo of a dead rabbit on the side of the road. Very near it, was a basket on its side, and some Easter eggs.

Her reply  was as revealing as it was succinct ; "you're just sick"

@Yonadav



"the fact that the earth is round is a matter of borrowed knowledge. They 'know' that the earth is round because they have been taught that it is, and have seen pictures from space, and that sort of thing. But borrowed knowledge isn't sophisticated or intelligent. It's simply borrowed. It's not wrong to have borrowed knowledge. All of us modern folk have our heads packed full of borrowed stuff. But the delusion of sophistication is wrong. And when people are challenged about that delusion, the result is frequently entertaining."

No, I didn't misunderstand your claim about borrowed knowledge. I simply think it's an absurd oversimplification. I doubt we will agree agree on this topic. Perhaps if you explained it using smaller words.


By the way, your comment ,which virtually says "you just don't understand' is a classic ad hominem attack, not an argument.
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#74
RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
LOL, thereyet said "becoming".  That's good.
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#75
RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(March 14, 2019 at 6:00 pm)fredd bear Wrote:
(March 14, 2019 at 4:21 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: No, I didn't. Repeating an experiment yourself is when knowledge is no longer borrowed.

Oh for fuck sake!

"Borrowed knowledge" ? All formally acquired knowledge is "borrowed"

Let me make a wild guess; You did not attend college/university?

What do you mean?
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#76
RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(March 13, 2019 at 10:24 pm)Yonadav Wrote:
(March 13, 2019 at 8:24 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Wherever there's ignorance, it should be confronted.  Always.

There is ignorance everywhere. That's what makes flat earth pranksterism so much fun for so many. Give a caveman a stainless steel knife, and he will almost immediately become convinced that he is more sophisticated than other cavemen, because they don't understand metal the way he does. Does he understand metal? No, not at all. But he will think that he does, and that cavemen without metal are more ignorant than him.

Flat earth frequently brings out the same thing. I have laughed my ass off at some of the 'understandings' that people have about the earth being round. For most people, the fact that the earth is round is a matter of borrowed knowledge. They 'know' that the earth is round because they have been taught that it is, and have seen pictures from space, and that sort of thing. But borrowed knowledge isn't sophisticated or intelligent. It's simply borrowed. It's not wrong to have borrowed knowledge. All of us modern folk have our heads packed full of borrowed stuff. But the delusion of sophistication is wrong. And when people are challenged about that delusion, the result is frequently entertaining.

You'd think that with the internet available, "borrowed knowledge" would be pretty close to true knowledge.  But it isn't, is it?  Trolls pump out a disproportionate amount of content, and dumb people recognize it as the kind of easy-won information that they like to adopt.
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#77
RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(March 14, 2019 at 8:34 pm)EgoDeath Wrote:
(March 14, 2019 at 6:00 pm)fredd bear Wrote: Oh for fuck sake!

"Borrowed knowledge" ? All formally acquired knowledge is "borrowed"

Let me make a wild guess; You did not attend college/university?

What do you mean?

Sorry mate, I was aiming at Yon.
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#78
RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(March 14, 2019 at 10:04 pm)fredd bear Wrote: Sorry mate, I was aiming at Yon.

Hm, I'm not sure what's been up Yon's ass lately. He's had something against me ever since I called him out for his childish nonsense in the thread about cannabis convictions in San Fran.

In this thread, I was basically agreeing with Yon and even supporting his claim that some Flat-Earthers are just trolls. But he still found something to argue with me about, despite the fact that his bit about "borrowed knowledge" is totally off-base. "Borrowed knowledge" is when people regurgitate things they've heard or read without fact-checking it for themselves. I was literally trying to say the opposite, that people should be taught how to perform experiments themselves that very easily show the Earth is round through simple logic.

I'm not suggesting this in the sense that we should even entertain Flat-Earth idiots, but rather to show children the importance of scientific experimentation and skeptical thinking; to show them that, hey, you can perform these experiments YOURSELF and prove to yourself certain truths about the reality around us. This concept applies to many different facets of our world, not just the shape of our planet.

So yea, not sure where he's seeing "borrowed knowledge" in that.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#79
RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(February 26, 2019 at 10:12 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: There is a school of thought that says we should engage with Flat-Earthers in order to bring these conversations out into the open and not push FEers to the "fringes" of society, so to sepak.

There is another idea that these people are holding fixed beliefs that will never change in the fact of evidence or reason.

After having very few, but intense, interactions ith flat-earthers, I've ultimately decided that these conversations are not worth having. I think that some people are prone to conspiracy and will shout conspiracy no matter what happens, where it happens or who is involved. I think having some sort of ominous group to blame for the bad things that happen in the world gives some people a strange sense of comfort.

What do you guys think and why?

These people, like Biblical literalists, are in the same category as those who believe that the South won the Civil War.
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#80
RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(February 26, 2019 at 10:12 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: There is a school of thought that says we should engage with Flat-Earthers in order to bring these conversations out into the open and not push FEers to the "fringes" of society, so to sepak.

There is another idea that these people are holding fixed beliefs that will never change in the fact of evidence or reason.

After having very few, but intense, interactions ith flat-earthers, I've ultimately decided that these conversations are not worth having. I think that some people are prone to conspiracy and will shout conspiracy no matter what happens, where it happens or who is involved. I think having some sort of ominous group to blame for the bad things that happen in the world gives some people a strange sense of comfort.

What do you guys think and why?
They have been debated to death online




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