Did Jesus decompose?

[tackattack]

OK I understand that you disagree with the conditions. I thought they were implied in the OP, otherwise this whole conversation was a poorly formed straw man.

So other than the presuppositions we also disagree with the first question. If you're not going to suspend belief on the presuppositions given in the argument, why bother with answering at all?

Given the the presuppositions are conditionally true (in that it's just for arguments sake, not that you hold those beliefs) why can't Christ be 100% man and 100% God?

believe it is a valid question. I understand the standpoint that we can't be 200% of something so I'll attempt to rephrase.

Given the the presuppositions are conditionally true (in that it's just for arguments sake, not that you hold those beliefs) if Christ is 100% Himself, can that personage contain both the nature of being 100% like a man and 100% a part of God?

[The Grand Nudger]

You're asking me to assume that the magic book can be trusted and then asking me, on the basis of that....whether or not jesus could have been 100% man and 100% god, and the answer is no, tack.  Assuming that magic book can be trusted, jesus could not have been 100% man and 100% god.

Frankly, he could not have been a god at all. It;s not even a matter of %. He couldn't have been .0000005% a god or 120% of a god either.

[The Valkyrie]

"They're decomposing messiahs,
"There's less of them every year..."

With thanks to Monty Python...

[Huggy Bear]

I don't believe he decomposed. His flesh died, prior to the resurrection. Typically, the soul (breath) was abandoned “to Sheol,” and the body saw corruption or decayed when someone died.
It's not explicit what happened to his body, other than it wasn't there after 3 days. Maybe it was eaten or decayed faster than 3 days, maybe it was burnt up, or spirited away by angels, no one really knows or cares. He gave his flesh for the life of the world and when he appeared after the resurrection, didn't need that flesh anymore.

*emphasis mine*

What are you talking about? Scripture clearly states

"For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol; Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay." - Psalm 16:10

Not to mention the fact that he let Thomas touch his wounds, and he ate food, so he clearly returned to his body.

To answer the OP, Decay has no effect on whether or not one can be resurrected, Lazarus was in a state of decomposition when he was resurrected.

[The Grand Nudger]

There are some who believe that Jesus did not have a resurrected body, but was only a spirit. However, the Scripture is very clear on the issue - the resurrection of Jesus was in bodily form. Early in His ministry, Jesus predicted that He would come back from the dead in a body. He said.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_...t_1352.cfm

Seems pretty clear...

And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.

So, you know..enjoy that.

[tackattack]

I don't believe he decomposed. His flesh died, prior to the resurrection. Typically, the soul (breath) was abandoned “to Sheol,” and the body saw corruption or decayed when someone died.
It's not explicit what happened to his body, other than it wasn't there after 3 days. Maybe it was eaten or decayed faster than 3 days, maybe it was burnt up, or spirited away by angels, no one really knows or cares. He gave his flesh for the life of the world and when he appeared after the resurrection, didn't need that flesh anymore.

*emphasis mine*

What are you talking about? Scripture clearly states

"For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol; Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay." - Psalm 16:10

Not to mention the fact that he let Thomas touch his wounds, and he ate food, so he clearly returned to his body.

To answer the OP, Decay has no effect on whether or not one can be resurrected, Lazarus was in a state of decomposition when he was resurrected.

If you read Psalms 16 do you really believe that the psalmist is talking about Jesus? As the verses Gae pointed when he referenced his commentary there's a lot of scripture that does say he was resurrected into some sort of physical form.

It acknowledges he sat to eat but didn't have to, but ignores the following verse where  he disappeared, mid meal.
It acknowledges the holes and hands in the feet, but ignores the previous verse where he appeared in a room that was locked.
Let's not forget the road to Damascus  visit which happened after ascension.

Seems that there is evidence for a body that CAN breath and CAN eat but doesn't need to. Perhaps reread 1 Corinthian 15. Great length regarding the resurrected bodies of believers. Perhaps this was Jesus' "Spirit Body". IDK, but it clearly wasn't the same type of functioning body He died with, even though it might look similar when He wanted it to.

[The Grand Nudger]

You think god couldn't get his body into a locked room, or appear and disappear at will?  That he'd have to be a ghost?  

I think it's funny that these bumpkins were so convinced by low rent parlor tricks that they spun off an entire religion - almost as funny as you believing in it now. 

Here's the rub, the entire appeal of the faith was bodily resurrection. The resurrection of christ is what the narrative takes to be proof of that possibility - and even posits that if christ did not come back, bodily, then no one can and the faith is pointless and everyone is "still in their sins".

No one, no one, who came up with this tripe was looking forward to going to "heaven" as a spirit and living there. They expected that they would return from the grave, on earth, and soon. They had previously believed that jesus would rule on earth himself (if they were jews, lol). The reason that jesus and resurrection have morphed into your mind into something else..was that this just didn't end up happening, so christianity as a movement had to rehabilitate their prophetic failure and the disappointment of expectations.

-and all of this, ofc, assuming that there were ever a man, and that magic book can be trusted. If magic book can be trusted, jesus could not have been a god, and was a man..a man who wrote checks that no one could cash.

[fredd bear]

How can you apply basic biology to the spiritual world in which many things we call miracles happen. We call them miracles because we do not understand them, when the impossible seems to happen we are dumb founded by the incident and when the impossible happens, ie. to our knowledge, it can only come from One who can cause the impossible to happen because He has control of all things. 

GC

That is just a colossal argument from ignorance. You can't figure it out, therefore nobody else can possibly figure it out and nobody ever will in the future figure it out. Therefore god did it.

Even you must see how utterly vacuous that is.

 Want to bet on that?

I think it was P T Barnum  who said "No one ever went broke underestimating public gullibility" From experience, that is most certainly true of the fundy believers we have here

One of the reasons Christianity  became so popular is that it contains no new concepts.  It was neither strange nor foreign. There are a lot of similarities with the mystery religions. With its unoriginal idea of a blissful after life, early Christianity was most attractive to the marginalised, such as slaves and women--even more so when one realises early Christianity  did not include a belief in an eternal hell. That piece of nonsense took I think a couple of hundred years to be perfected.