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RE: New Zealand Bans Manifesto
March 24, 2019 at 6:34 pm
(March 24, 2019 at 8:28 am)Yonadav Wrote: I think that the pro-censorship crowd is a bigger threat than racists are.
Except the pro censorship crowd isn't going around shooting up places of worship
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RE: New Zealand Bans Manifesto
March 24, 2019 at 7:55 pm
Who determines your right to free speech if not yourselves?
Who is gonna determine if you can read something or voice an opinion, popular or unpopular? The government? Censors?
We need free speech, because it offends, otherwise we won't know what is offensive to begin with. We're not toddlers who can't determine if something is likeable or not.
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RE: New Zealand Bans Manifesto
March 24, 2019 at 8:49 pm
Quote:Who determines your right to free speech if not yourselves?
The fact we have laws the place limitations on free speech
Quote:Who is gonna determine if you can read something or voice an opinion, popular or unpopular? The government? Censors?
Pretty sure we can all broadly agree the insane ramblings of a mass murderer trying to incite race based terrorism can be censored .
Quote:We need free speech, because it offends, otherwise we won't know what is offensive to begin with. We're not toddlers who can't determine if something is likeable or not.
Yeah that doesn't follow I think broadly "kill the darkies " doesn't have to be heard to determine it's awful
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RE: New Zealand Bans Manifesto
March 24, 2019 at 9:00 pm
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2019 at 9:12 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Incitement to violence has nothing to do with popular or unpopular opinions. In this case, amusingly enough, the opinions in question are popular with the us public. That's a big part of why this shit is on the rise here, and we're a big part o why it's on the rise globally. We became a testbed for messaging. The normalization, ubiquity, and reframing of white nationalist incitement as "a free speech issue" when it isn't..at all, is a successful recruitment and radicalization tool.
The KKK, here, has found itself on the other end of incitement more than a few times.
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