Your point of living?

[I_am_not_mafia]

Dear Atheists,

What's your point of living? You're all eventually going to die. When you die, there will be no afterlife. It's almost as if you never existed in the first place because you'll forget you'll ever existed, thus you'll forget about anything that made you happy in life and any good moments in life. You can "make the best of it" while you're "here on Earth" for these "rare 80 [only if you're lucky] years", but in the end it won't matter. Most people won't leave behind a legacy, and even if you left one behind, it won't last long. Even famous luminaries like Michael Jackson or Elvis Presley will be forgotten sooner than later. Your contributions to humanity won't matter either because humanity will end, and life on Earth will be wiped out by a meteor in a few centuries from now or even sooner. If that doesn't happen, humans will go extinct anyway by robots.

The point of living is what you want it to be. That gives you freedom you don't get with religion because you get to choose..

Personally I've now lost the reason to live and need to find some other purpose. I am not sure what that is going to be yet.

All I really want to do is leave my little paw print in the sand and make a positive contribution that outlasts me.

But one thing is for sure, humans won't go extinct because of the robots. There are many ways for us to become extinct, but AI is not one of them. If anything, AI will help stop our extinction from happening if we so choose.

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The drive to survive is what keeps me alive.

That's just a meaningless evolutionary trait that happened by accident and by infinitely small chance.

If you think it happened by accident and by an infinitely small chance then you do not understand evolution.

[Astreja]

Eternity completely strips existence of all {extrinsic} meaning, because it is impossible to get to "the point of it all."  I've known this for the past 50 years, after visualizing the flow of eternity one afternoon in the winter of 1968-69.  Adding a god to the equation doesn't fix things, because then you have two beings existing eternally for no particular reason.

(And in retrospect, what I thought was a bout of nihilism back then was more likely seasonal affective disorder.)

(Edited to add: Even if there's no ultimate meaning to existence, it is still possible to craft one's own meaning in an eternal framework, the same as a non-eternal being can do.)

[joe90]

Dear Atheists,

What's your point of living? You're all eventually going to die. When you die, there will be no afterlife. It's almost as if you never existed in the first place because you'll forget you'll ever existed, thus you'll forget about anything that made you happy in life and any good moments in life.

From my perspective, that happens to believers as well.  No one escapes death, regardless of what they do or do not believe.

Except believers, if their belief comes true, will probably keep some memories of their life on Earth.

[Astreja]

From my perspective, that happens to believers as well.  No one escapes death, regardless of what they do or do not believe.

Except believers, if their belief comes true, will probably keep some memories of their life on Earth.

Well, I am firmly of the opinion that believers are wrong about that, and will never experience life after death because it's simply not possible.

I understand the appeal of the belief -- Death and dying are frightening things, and the idea of living forever might ease that fear.

[ignoramus]

And why do you think I won't last long here?

Because you're a cock womble!


Ta Mat... that cracks me up...

[robvalue]

This video makes the point pretty well.

My point of living is to try and make the life experiences of others, my wife, pets, and animals of the world, as pleasant as I can. I find that worthwhile. In fact, I find that so motivating, that I keep on living even though I don’t actually care about my own life and would rather be dead. If you require something to be infinite for it to be worthwhile, then that is up to you.

I’ll borrow a good quote from someone else on one of the forums, I forget who it was:

"If each particular second is of no value to you, why would you want an infinite amount of them?"

[downbeatplumb]

From my perspective, that happens to believers as well.  No one escapes death, regardless of what they do or do not believe.

Except believers, if their belief comes true, will probably keep some memories of their life on Earth.

So its "the good place"

[Peebothuhlu]

Dear Atheists,

What's your point of living? You're all eventually going to die. When you die, there will be no afterlife. It's almost as if you never existed in the first place because you'll forget you'll ever existed, thus you'll forget about anything that made you happy in life and any good moments in life. You can "make the best of it" while you're "here on Earth" for these "rare 80 [only if you're lucky] years", but in the end it won't matter. Most people won't leave behind a legacy, and even if you left one behind, it won't last long. Even famous luminaries like Michael Jackson or Elvis Presley will be forgotten sooner than later. Your contributions to humanity won't matter either because humanity will end, and life on Earth will be wiped out by a meteor in a few centuries from now or even sooner. If that doesn't happen, humans will go extinct anyway by robots.

 Hello!

"What's my point of living" ?

Uhm... because I'm currently alive? I guess?

"You're We're all eventually going to die"

Fixed that for ye there. Uhm... who knows. With medicine making the great strides that it is perchance we'll be the first generation to actually be able to live 'Forver' (Or untill that bus with our name on it gets us. )

"When you die, there will be no afterlife. It's almost as if you never existed in the first place because you'll forget you'll ever existed, thus you'll forget about anything that made you happy in life and any good moments in life."

Which... is pretty much true of any one you can not think of who lived...Oooh... back in the 1700s who didn't leave their name on a history book, right? nothing chaning there.


 "Your contributions to humanity won't matter either because humanity will end, and life on Earth will be wiped out by a meteor in a few centuries from now or even sooner. If that doesn't happen, humans will go extinct anyway by robots."

Oh well. If that's your take away from today's Si-Fi shows then, great.

My take is that, as a species, since we've worked out language and symbols and other 'Social human things' we've managed to spread from @rse-hole to breakfast across this planet as well as small steps beyond.

Humans are effectivly more endemic than roaches.

Hit the world with a big rock and, baring removing the atmosphere, we'll be scraping fungus off rocks till the green stuff grows back to get by.

 I don't think the world has seen an organisam like us since algae converted the atmosphere mostly to oxygen....

Still.. welcome to the forums and enjoy your stay.  

Not at work.

[Amarok]

Except believers, if their belief comes true, will probably keep some memories of their life on Earth.

And if they are wrong they probably won't and why should anyone care ?

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That's just a meaningless evolutionary trait that happened by accident and by infinitely small chance.

1. meaningless to whom ?

2. wither it's evolutionary or not is of no import

4. Nope not an accident as an accident implies something was intended that failed

5. And who cares if it happened by certainty or small chance ?

You keep speaking of things as though we should find them as externally angsty as you do

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You obviously didn't read the details I provided. I already addressed your last sentence and explained why it's illogical

Actually you didn't you simply throw around a lot of theistic angst .

[The Valkyrie]

Same bullshit, different day.

Why do Christians and other theists continue to cling desperately to life when so many think it's nothing but misery and their "afterlife" is so much better?

Is it because they truly realise that this is the one life ww have?