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Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
(March 5, 2020 at 3:33 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(March 5, 2020 at 12:39 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: The fact that we know a priori  what is right and what is wrong is an argument in the theist camp, so make sure you remember that in your next answer.
I don't know that we do.  We certainly spend alot of time on our children explaining right and wrong, however we refer to it.  However, assuming that a priori knowledge is required, why would that be a problem?  Does gods existence have anything to do with whether or not there are married bachelors?

Quote:I just finished reading the stanford encyclopedia stuff about moral realism. It's a big begging-the-question morality you have there, any "morally true fact about the object" is a bald assertion, you have nothing to back it up. You have a cold and sober materialistic world with no good and bad tags, you need to deal  with that. That's your atheism. Saying that moral facts = mathematical facts again goes back to very debatable premises.
If you say it's question begging, then so be it.  However, if you're rejecting moral realism, you're rejecting the notion of moral facts.  In any case, atheism is a position about gods, not morality.  Atheists can (and do) subscribe to any and every category of moral system ever described by man.  This makes any "how can atheists do/say x" question a bit absurd on it's face - we'd have to be more specific.  Still, as a question of whether and how...answers are simple to find.  

If..however, you would rather argue that atheists are wrong....I'll refer you to the above - your rejection of moral facts as question begging.
It's amazing he supposedly read about it .But still gets it wrong  Hilarious
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