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RE: Atheist who is having a crisis of faith
April 28, 2019 at 6:03 pm
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(April 28, 2019 at 4:30 pm)emilsein Wrote: One final question for the night, if the Jesus resurrection was fictional why did they say that women had found Jesus in the tomb alive? aterall they say women were considered 2nd class citizens therefore it makes it less believable for if they were lying. If you can explain this I will return to being an atheist, does this fact shake your belief? Can you honestly explain why they would do this if it were truly a lie and make it less believable?
LadyforCamus can you explain why they used women to find Jesus when it makes the story less reliable, in Jewish culture they were considered 2nd class citizens so people would be less likely to believe them
How the hell should I know? I didn’t write it. How come Hermione never cheated on Ron with Harry? That’s a question that keeps me up at night.
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RE: Atheist who is having a crisis of faith
April 28, 2019 at 6:17 pm
(April 28, 2019 at 6:03 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (April 28, 2019 at 4:30 pm)emilsein Wrote: One final question for the night, if the Jesus resurrection was fictional why did they say that women had found Jesus in the tomb alive? aterall they say women were considered 2nd class citizens therefore it makes it less believable for if they were lying. If you can explain this I will return to being an atheist, does this fact shake your belief? Can you honestly explain why they would do this if it were truly a lie and make it less believable?
LadyforCamus can you explain why they used women to find Jesus when it makes the story less reliable, in Jewish culture they were considered 2nd class citizens so people would be less likely to believe them
How the hell should I know? I didn’t write it. How come Hermione never cheated on Ron with Harry? That’s a question that keeps me up at night.
Ron has a bigger willy.
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RE: Atheist who is having a crisis of faith
April 28, 2019 at 6:24 pm
LadyForCamus that made me laugh about the harry potter shit. Do you personally believe that men and ppl of the time would've been less likely to of believed women?
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RE: Atheist who is having a crisis of faith
April 28, 2019 at 6:27 pm
(April 28, 2019 at 5:03 pm)emilsein Wrote: That interview still doesn't explain why they used women, the fact they did only hurts their cause, proving it's real, right? Why women found Jesus is proof of the resurrection, is this logical? You can't even refute it, if it doesn't make sense then it must be true
I can only deduce that you have a reading comprehension problem. Belief hangs it hat on a pin head.
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RE: Atheist who is having a crisis of faith
April 28, 2019 at 6:43 pm
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(April 28, 2019 at 6:24 pm)emilsein Wrote: LadyForCamus that made me laugh about the harry potter shit. Do you personally believe that men and ppl of the time would've been less likely to of believed women?
I think it’s irrelevant to any argument regarding the historicity of magical bible claims. Maybe it was written that way because that’s the way it happened, or was believed to have happened. Maybe a man named Jesus was crucified, and maybe women really did find an empty tomb after three days. And, maybe other people made the magical, “ascended into heaven” stuff up after the fact.
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RE: Atheist who is having a crisis of faith
April 28, 2019 at 6:45 pm
LadyForCamus do you personally believe that ppl would've been less likely to believe a woman during that era?
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RE: Atheist who is having a crisis of faith
April 28, 2019 at 6:46 pm
(April 28, 2019 at 6:43 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (April 28, 2019 at 6:24 pm)emilsein Wrote: LadyForCamus that made me laugh about the harry potter shit. Do you personally believe that men and ppl of the time would've been less likely to of believed women?
I think it’s irrelevant to any argument regarding the historicity of magical bible claims. Maybe it was written that way because that’s the way it happened, or was believed to have happened. Maybe a man named Jesus was crucified, and maybe women really did find an empty tomb after three days. And, maybe other people made the magical, “ascended into heaven” stuff up after the fact.
Finding an empty tomb is evidence of grave robbing. That's about it.
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RE: Atheist who is having a crisis of faith
April 28, 2019 at 6:48 pm
(April 28, 2019 at 6:45 pm)emilsein Wrote: LadyForCamus do you personally believe that ppl would've been less likely to believe a woman during that era?
I just explained to you why that’s irrelevant to the argument.
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RE: Atheist who is having a crisis of faith
April 28, 2019 at 6:48 pm
But why would they make up a lie about women if it would not be believed as well? I feel it's completely relevant. Do you see my point at least?
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RE: Atheist who is having a crisis of faith
April 28, 2019 at 6:54 pm
(April 28, 2019 at 6:48 pm)emilsein Wrote: But why would they make up a lie about women if it would not be believed as well? I feel it's completely relevant. Do you see my point at least?
Perhaps they made up the lie because the point you're making NOW was also made back then. Fiction is a funny thing. Since the dawn of time writers have been bolstering suspension of disbelief in their work.
Which is more plausible?
1. Someone threw in a tidbit about women into their myth/story even though it may hurt its credibility.
2. A man rose from the dead and floated into outer space.
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