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[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Still part of the same government entity

Your great-great-great grandfather is still part of your same genetic lineage.  Do you bear responsibility for his crimes?

Boru

[Amarok]

Still part of the same government entity

Your great-great-great grandfather is still part of your same genetic lineage.  Do you bear responsibility for his crimes?

Boru

Your comparing apples and oranges . A family line isn't the  same a legal governing body .

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Your great-great-great grandfather is still part of your same genetic lineage.  Do you bear responsibility for his crimes?

Boru

Your comparing apples and oranges . A family line isn't the  same a legal  governing body .

*shrug*  Governing bodies are made up of human beings.  Governance constitutes the acts of those human beings.  None of the people who acted to legitimize, continue, and support slavery are with us today.

Simply because a continuance of government exists doesn't seem to be enough reason to place responsibility of the acts of a prior government on the current one - the people are different, the mindset is different, the laws are different. 

Boru

[Athene]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_S...ct_of_1850

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/prima...-slave-act

*Brought to you by the (noticeably non-African) 31st US Congress...Lol

And which members of the current US Congress voted for either of those acts?

Boru

We all know those members of Congress are long dead, Boru.

But the system of white supremacy that permitted slavery continued to turn the screws by enacting sadistic, thoroughly racist policies that were explicitly designed give tremendous advantage to whites and to cement blacks as a permanent underclass until the early 1970's.

This notion that slavery just kind of "happened" to the US, and that the driving force behind it no longer exists is insane.

The narrative here seems to be "That's all in past". My counter-narrative is that the past is nowhere near as distant as some folks believe it to be.
My own parents' formative years and early adulthood was spent living under the thumb of Jim Crow.

[Amarok]

Your comparing apples and oranges . A family line isn't the  same a legal  governing body .

*shrug*  Governing bodies are made up of human beings.  Governance constitutes the acts of those human beings.  None of the people who acted to legitimize, continue, and support slavery are with us today.

Simply because a continuance of government exists doesn't seem to be enough reason to place responsibility of the acts of a prior government on the current one - the people are different, the mindset is different, the laws are different. 

Boru

it's the same government even if it made up of different human beings . Once again we aren't talking about punishing people were talking about the legal institution .

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And which members of the current US Congress voted for either of those acts?

Boru

We all know those members of Congress are long dead, Boru.

But the system of white supremacy that permitted slavery continued to turn the screws by enacting sadistic, thoroughly racist policies that were explicitly designed give tremendous advantage to whites and to cement blacks as a permanent underclass until the early 1970's.

This notion that slavery just kind of "happened" to the US, and that the driving force behind it no longer exists is insane.

The narrative here seems to be "That's all in past". My counter-narrative is that the past is nowhere near as distant as some folks believe it to be.
My own parents' formative years and early adulthood was spent living under the thumb of Jim Crow.

And it remains a fact it's the same legal governing institution .Weither or no it's the same people is aside the point .

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

And which members of the current US Congress voted for either of those acts?

Boru

We all know those members of Congress are long dead, Boru.

But the system of white supremacy that permitted slavery continued to turn the screws by enacting sadistic, thoroughly racist policies that were explicitly designed give tremendous advantage to whites and to cement blacks as a permanent underclass until the early 1970's.

This notion that slavery just kind of "happened" to the US, and that the driving force behind it no longer exists is insane.

The narrative here seems to be "That's all in past". My counter-narrative is that the past is nowhere near as distant as some folks believe it to be.
My own parents' formative years and early adulthood was spent living under the thumb of Jim Crow.

I don't disagree that your government has been shockingly racist, not am I attempting to excuse racism or slavery.  I agree that government institutions have a long and shameful history of perpetuating institutional racism.  I don't for a minute imagine that racism vanished in a puff of good feelings in 1865.

But don't the same government institutions that normalized slavery deserve at least some credit for ending it, particularly given the heavy public opposition to doing so?

Boru

[Amarok]

But don't the same government institutions that normalized slavery deserve at least some credit for ending it, particularly given the heavy public opposition to doing so?

Ending something you still used isn't a virtue

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

But don't the same government institutions that normalized slavery deserve at least some credit for ending it, particularly given the heavy public opposition to doing so?

Ending something you still used isn't a virtue

Yeah, fuck those recovering heroin addicts, amirite?

Boru

[Athene]

We all know those members of Congress are long dead, Boru.

But the system of white supremacy that permitted slavery continued to turn the screws by enacting sadistic, thoroughly racist policies that were explicitly designed give tremendous advantage to whites and to cement blacks as a permanent underclass until the early 1970's.

This notion that slavery just kind of "happened" to the US, and that the driving force behind it no longer exists is insane.

The narrative here seems to be "That's all in past". My counter-narrative is that the past is nowhere near as distant as some folks believe it to be.
My own parents' formative years and early adulthood was spent living under the thumb of Jim Crow.

I don't disagree that your government has been shockingly racist, not am I attempting to excuse racism or slavery.  I agree that government institutions have a long and shameful history of perpetuating institutional racism.  I don't for a minute imagine that racism vanished in a puff of good feelings in 1865.

But don't the same government institutions that normalized slavery deserve at least some credit for ending it, particularly given the heavy public opposition to doing so?

Boru

IDK.

Does a rapist deserve "credit" when they stop sexually violating you, yet happily follow you around town while slapping you upside the head and generally making your life HELL in other ways?

Lol..Not really, IMO.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

As expected,

Yep, your response certainly is as expected.

The other options being that you were actually a black slave at some point in your life or that you had been commissioned by some agency to do extensive research on slavery in America and have been named an expert on the topic.  'Cause there is nothing that has ever happened in the history of ever that you aren't a supreme authority on.

Legend in your own mind.

I'm glad you have someone to attack. You desperately need such.