American Dies on Mt Everest

[Anomalocaris]

Inadequate safety protocol of a service should only prevent that service from being offered without major changes if the service is either vital to livelihood, or it is accessible to such a large potential clientele that adequate information to perspective beneficiaries can not be guaranteed.

Otherwise it is stupid to prevent buyers who are indeed well aware from buying.

[Brian37]

Inadequate safety protocol of a service should only prevent that service from being offered without major changes if the service is either vital to livelihood, or it is accessible to such a large potential clientele that adequate information to perspective beneficiaries can not be guaranteed.

Otherwise it is stupid to prevent buyers who are indeed well aware from buying.

Again, I am sorry, but even outside this issue, the "buyer beware" excuse has been far too abused. 

I am not disagreeing with people getting into something they are aware of. I am saying that greed will cause those with power and money to abuse that excuse.

Not everything in life needs to be marketed as a thrill, or entitlement or vanity product/service.

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Nadar pointing out that cars back in the 70s were garbage wasn't saying he was anti transportation.

Selling Mt Everest as a "getaway" isn't a good idea. Some ideas are simply impractical.

[Anomalocaris]

I don’t think the tourist mountaineers of Everest are generally abused by Nepal.  If anything Nepal is in jeopardy of being abused by them.

Not everything in life needs to be marketed as a thrill.   But it is not up to you to say what can not be marketed as a thrill.

The difference between good public policy and bad public policy is good policy prevents those who has no choice from underserved harm, bad policy attempts to prevent wants from being sought even if it places no bystander at risk.

[Brian37]

I don’t think the tourist mountaineers of Everest are generally abused by Nepal.  If anything Nepal is in jeopardy of being abused by them.

Not everything in life needs to be marketed as a thrill.   But it is not up to you to say what can not be marketed as a thrill.

The difference between good public policy and bad public policy is good policy prevents those who has no choice from underserved harm, bad policy attempts to prevent wants from being sought even if it places no bystander at risk.

Again, you are still arguing an abused excuse "buyer beware". 

Did you see the recent pictures on the news of the long line to the summit? It reminded me of lines at a theme park or the DMV. You could argue all of them singed wavers, but that does not mean everyone who did was expecting to die. 

Even our voluntary military today is marketed as hero worship, and a way to get an education. But how many teens would join up if the adds for recruitment showed real brains and bodies being blown apart.

In the past two weeks 11 people died from mostly altitude sickness. That isn't even as sexy as falling off a cliff. And even with those who died, it wasn't like they were landing on the beaches of Normandy defeating Nazis.

Disney resorts and Princess Cruises presents "ALTITUDE SICKNESS ADVENTURE" 

We know you are Rambo, We know you are Clint Eastwood, We know you are James Bond.  Drive that gas guzzling Camaro, get brain damage from cage fighting. Lets just all be impractical as a species because we can.

Again, please don't claim I am claiming people should not be allowed to do what they want. I am saying your argument has been abused and is an over simplification.

[Anomalocaris]

Yes, when the buyer can not be but aware, there is no excuse not to rely on buyer aware.

Perhaps in the mind of Brian, only Brian can be aware, so it would naturally be wrong to expect any buyer who is not Brian to be aware.

[Brian37]

Yes, when the buyer can not be but aware, there is no excuse not to rely on buyer aware.

Perhaps in the mind of Brian, only Brian can be aware, so it would naturally be wrong to expect any buyer who is not Brian to be aware.

If you are not an ABBA fan, then you would not understand.

Not the point.

Humans are far more fragile than we'd like to think. Evolution itself is tough sure. But this bullshit idea that our planet cares about humans, or that humans have to always think about ourselves as heros and super human, is just that.

In reality, which is hardly sexy, humans are just as fragile as any other life in our evolutionary history.

When you defend climbing Mount Everest, I am not talking about never doing it. I am talking about CONTEXT and pragmatism.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you always should.

I can get the first climbers being explorers. I can get the first scientists doing the same. 

But Mount Everest isn't that. It has unfortunately been turned into a Indiana Jones prop for individuals whom have nothing better to do than to stroke their own egos.

[Anomalocaris]

Eh, Just because you don’t think people should doesn’t mean anyone else should give a damn.

Good government keeps the the weak from being exploited by the strong, and keep those whose activities do not forcibly affect the unwilling from the unwanted interventions by nosy busybodies such as......

[The Valkyrie]

"American dies on Mt Everest. Trump threatens sanctions, moves carrier taskforce to Nepal."

[Anomalocaris]

"American dies on Mt Everest.  Trump threatens sanctions, moves carrier taskforce to Nepal."

Mt Everest developed nuclear weapons, trump says he loves chairman mountain.

[Brian37]

Eh, Just because you don’t think people should doesn’t mean anyone else should give a damn.

Good government keeps the the weak from being exploited by the strong, and keep those whose activities do not forcibly affect the unwilling from the unwanted interventions by nosy busybodies such as......

Yep, big oil, tobacco and firearm companies love you your oversimplification. The problem is reality is not a utopia. And it is more complex than "just do it".

Again, if "You hate freedom" argument worked the way you are implying, then cars would still be the piles of shit they were when Nadar called them out. Funny that, cars are still being made.

So you are telling me somehow magically a man's balls will fall off, and Darth Vader will blow them up with the death star if one Mountain is off limits? No other mountains exist on the planet?

Again, when the employees whom issue the permits whom live there and the guides are saying "we've got a problem", then there is a problem.