Here’s my question.

[The Grand Nudger]

Maybe you should spend more time obsessing over how weve been locking a bunch of dads up and less time wondering about what they do with their dicks?

[LastPoet]

If anything, Drich's stats show that the US is fucked up. I dunno why, since it's filled with good christians™

[Drich]

what a dishonest pos you are.
Most asians are doing better than the average white person in america today.
https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/...americans/

Then to call out south east asians.. sweet heart they may be the poorest people in the world outside south america, but unlike south american the US will simply not allow them in if they have nothing to contribute, can't speak the language or can not work a skilled job.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/dic...-americans
So working from your stereotype this is true that south eastern asian are poor but not if they come here.

Uh-oh! Somebunny's upset. And quite CLUELESS, it would appear.

Southeast Asians HERE in U.S. have some of the highest dropout and poverty rates in THIS country. Now, I don't say this to suggest that there's something inherently wrong with or stupid about SA's. I don't believe that all.  I'm just pointing out that it is racial stereotyping that's caused you to believe that impoverished Asians are "unheard of" the US, not reality. They are many Asians in this country who are indeed falling through the cracks that you simply don't see.

Asian Americans are falling through the cracks in data representation and social services
Asian-Americans Have the Highest Poverty Rate in NYC
The Gap Between Rich and Poor is Highest Among Asian Americans

  where did I say there where no poor asians?

Going to look at the first source as we are speaking on a nation wide scale. poor asians in one city means nothing if that city is also included in the national numbers. it simply means there are more people in that city than there are jobs. most asians who come to a city like nyc do so because they can live in an area of down where english is not the primary form of communication. basically the can move without learning the language and culture. and as thing destabilize more people will want to move flooding a given city's job market. so again if you want to compare I'm sure atlanta's or maybe detroit's poverty level with black people will far exceed the asian poverty level in nyc.

the 3 source is also meaningless because the pay gap between different members of the same community is a socialist/communist talking point and has no bearing on a free market society. It seems to me you just googled this topic and took the first three sources you found!

How ever we can discuss the last link as it is actually filled with data that has anything to do with this discussion.
Asians are 6% of the population according to your first article and of that 6%, 12% are impoverished. Now mind you that 6% is not just people from the southeast asia.. no that number is less than 1%. the 6% includes all asian americans people from hawaii AND all native americans. That basically repersents everyone not black white or hispanic. So out of those 12 or so soceities (meaning people who speak different langages and people who have totally different cultures all lumped together make up 6% of the US population roughly 20 million people.. now out of this racist grab bag (because you are saying we do not count as indivisual races or soceities) that means 2,000,000 people are considered below the poverty line.

That douche bag in a country of 330+ million or 330,000,000 is not a lot. that is far less than 1%

Now you want to compare numbers?
compare that 14% of the people self identify as black or african american. That alone is 42 million people. this does not include black speaking hispanic who do not consider themselves "one of you." nor anyone else who do not see themselves as 'black americans.'

Now how many of them are in poverty?
25%


that is alot. that like 10.5 million people who can not provide for themselves. 10.5 million who where almost certainly all born here, who speak the language who has the government bent over backwards by having quotas that must be fill despite someone that maybe better qualified, government assistance programs where you almost have to be black, black only loans, black only scholarships. for black people to go to school buy homes and start up businesses.

Did you know I qualified for one of those grants. the government wanted to give me 15,000 in federal seed money to start a minority run business? I was tld they look for black people first, but did not have any one that applied that qualified. (showed up). I declined that and 10 years prior declined a schoarship designed for minorities only. wound up going to trade school instead of collage for that bit-o-pride.

My point is ALL Asians, hawaians, native americans, eskimos all together do not represent 1/2 of the black people in this country which btw has a poverty level 10 times smaller than black people who have only 2 times the numbers.

All asians (non hispanic, non white or blacks) in america= 20,000,000
All black people (but only those who claim to be black)= 42,000,000

Poor asians= 2,000,000
poor blacks=10,500,000

Again not to beat a dead horse but how many of those asians are fresh off the boat how many speak the language how many have the same accessiblity to federal assistance black people do? and yet 80% more black people can't work their way out of poverity?

You should be asking yourself why. what is the fundamental difference between all hawaiians american indians eskimos and everyone from asian living in america verse black people who have advantages most 1 time asians dont???

again back to the OP. It is family. family is the key to all of free society.

[The Grand Nudger]

Maybe you should spend more time obsessing over programs that help families and less time wondering about other people’s dicks, then?

[LadyForCamus]

Frowned upon by prudes obsessed with other people’s dicks, sure.  That was the question in the first place, why you’re so obsessed with other people’s dicks.

Because he’s a control freak, just like his god. No wonder they get along so well.

[no one]

Gae Bolga:
Maybe you should spend more time obsessing over programs that help families and less time wondering about other people’s dicks, then?

Well then, if Mr. Happy doesn't have the particulars on all the imposters around the world, how else will he know how special he is?

LAWYERED!

[Drich]

in the 40 and 50s the black marriage rate was far higher than whites, so for the purpose of this discussion for black people it was a good time for their communities (if you were not in the south.)

Really? And all of the non-Southern Black families who were essentially forced to move into public housing due to government-sanctioned housing discrimination (or pay the tremendous cost of living in home via contract selling in which they afforded ZERO equity) were experiencing "good times"?

no one was forced into shite. As you so hypocritical pointed out just one post ago blacks are not the only people who are poor. when public housing was first made available it was to the standard of 1950s 1960 family who could afford a home or duplex the sqare footage in the home as well as having modern conveniences to the 1950 and 1960 where shared I know because I worked about 15 years in the projects in and around orlando and most of those project built back then are still in use. No one back then felt like they where down sized into public housing most came from shot gun single room shack with no running water and not electricity. people used still used out houses back then! My dad and his family themselves lived in an old abandon school bus set on the ground with a dirt floor they would have been happy to live in a public housing project, but where the wrong color.
So no, the VAST majority where not forced into anything. they willingly left their shite holes for modern living.

Say, you DO know what happened to most of the remaining working and middle-class Blacks neighborhoods where all those nice married couple lived once the Federal Highway Act of 1956 was passed don't you? They were scouted and deemed to be "ideal" locations for running the Interstate Highway System through.

So that;s why the highways where not build in straight lines!!! I thought it was to avoid natural obsticals and to connect cities, but you are saying the highway system was built to pave over black communities. to displace all black people and their glorious homes that where build at the end of slavery or if they where lucky lived in a company planned shot gun shack of the 1920 the used the excuse of road building to taget all of these places and then build Brand new a home that would be equal to any working class white person of the 1950s. or have you never been in a 1950s home white people have always lived in and never remodeled? they look and feel like any old project home.

So they were demolished.

True story.

I have no doubt that a highwy plowed though homes... but they where not limited to black people.

[quote]
Yet interestingly enough:
It Isn't Just Asian Immigrants Who Excel in the US
African Immigrants More Educated Than Most- Including Those Born in the US
The Most Successful Ethnic Group in the US May Suprise You
Africa is Sending it's Best and Brightest

Are you ever going to learn to start looking shit up before you start posting your thoughts all willy-nilly?

OMG.. IF you where nigerian you would know only 300K total live in this country. you would also know they mostly do not self identify as black/african american. So technically they do not want to be seen as a common black american. most identify as nigerian american, so you should not be so quick to brag about a people who do not want to be considered 'one of you.' (stings a little donit?/Had the same problem growing up mixed Ie yu own people do not want to claim you) That said let look at the number behind your glorious claim that nigerian immigrants are beating asians as far as sending over immigrants with the highest level of education.

That said let's by-pass the teteriary leftist propaganda and lets look at some raw numbers and make up our own minds.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20...-the-rise/

According to this 52.1% of asians come here with a 4 year degree or better.

And according to this ALL Sub Saharan african nations ( All black nations) sent 32% of immigrants here with highschool of less.
The number of collage educated is at A RESPECTABLE 40%

Now It does not seem like the people who wrote your propaganda peices are that educated as 52.1% is a greater or larger volume f people than 40%..

So one question remains... do you like apples?

How you like "dim" apples

You said I should research more and I did and by doing so took your BS propaganda and fed it back to you with real numbers from a legit site and not some political piece designed to make people like you feel self important.

Plus "dim apples" Dim like Dim=o-crate

I see. How fascinating.
Personally, I don't subscribe to the notion of collective guilt in situations such as these. I see no logical reason to feel responsible for the misdeeds of others who simply happen to share the same phenotype as me.

that is why you and people who think like you do fail. fail at what? life political and world power. look at the BS white people do to retain power. they pretend to care about all of the bs black people are angry about and look every election cycle to pretend to apologize for the race of white people.
Look at china. the are a borg collective if there was ever such a thing. their sense of community out does our own to the point they are the true economic world power. they bailed us out of obama era spending. To the point they are a geopolitical and economic force that threatens how western life is lived.

Now the challenge is name one country on the world stage/meaning it influences how the world is and works without the collective bond collective pride or collective guilt that I was describing to you. Do you self identify with a people or nation outside of the US? if so what do they bring to the world market.

Even korea's evil twin north korea has and does hold the world hostage because of the unity of the people as they see themselves as one large exended family with no member being greater than the father. that 30 million people would on the orders of their father run into hell if s ordered.

The point is we are stronger together and that is the whole point behind family verse the individualism that free sex brings.

Bold mine:

https://www.adl.org/racism

The article in question comes dangerously close to insinuating as much. The most generous I can be is to say that the author’s failure to approach any tangible, measurable cause for this phenomenon in improvised, black communities leaves the door wide open for racist interpretations. 

no did not say that. I said look at who is in jail. more whites than black almost double. then I asked do these men come from a mom and dad family or did they come from a mom only family... Then I point out that a lager percentage of black people populate prison which is in correlation to the decline of marriage and the increases of available free sex in that specific society.

The distinction here was to point out larger numbers of whites populate prison and come from a broken home

But a larger percentage of black men meaning a larger percentage of black men in the community have problems adapting to prime american culture (where asians spanish whites and blacks all come together and live under the rule of social and legal authority, for the ame reason a smaller percentage of white men but a larger number of whites are in prison. these men re with out the structure and discipline that a full time father contributes to the family structure.

Yeah, I see what you did there, Slick.  

You know...The way you not-so-cleverly omitted marriage-oriented NON-WHITE Hispanic and Latino populations who continue to deeply impacted by poverty and related issues as well because it FUCKS UP your bullshit narrative from multiple angles.

what are you talking about read it again I included white and black identifying hispanics.

LMFAO...Busted again.
How many times does that make now?

the only thing busted is your ablity to use logic and reson to have a discussion. you rely on key word fanaticism and racially charging a topic you can not other wise win... [Loosing a discussion? It is ok person of color just put out your race card and all white people will stop speaking...] I'm Not white retard. If blacks can not be considered racist because they are a minority, then know my people are 1/4 of the number yours are. so I am in the minority in this conversation you racist bastard!

I'll give you a pass on continuing to cling to your "model minority" Asian stereotype, seeing as though you probably hadn't seen the citations I posted that debunk that particular myth when you composed this horseshit.

saw then kicked them in the teeth with true facts and real numbers and identified them as political propaganda.

*bolding done by me for emphasis*

I did not isolate black people here. I point out a universal truth and used black people and their social decline in the last 50 years as an example because again it is well charted and documented, as the family declined the numbers of black men being imprisoned raised. which again is mirrored in other cultures but is not as well known or observed as in the black community.

 

Again, you grossly oversimplify matters in attributing poverty and related issues to the sudden adoption of "free sex" attitude in the 60's and ignoring every one of discriminatory structural policies including privatization of prisons and sentencing guidelines that targeted the poorest populations in the low-income areas that Uncle Sam moved heaven and earth to create. 

that is because the political discrimination stuff is utter bullshit past a certain point. 50s 60 70s... ok but things started to change in the 80s ad while blacks where being folding into society Asians where hated by black and white alike for 50 years of war. (how many blacks where taken like loaded into truck like the nazi loaded jews into trains and sent to literal concentration camps during WWII. How many black slaves where they after the civil war? the rail companies where shipping chinese over to build cross country rail way and employed indentured servitude (we will bring you to america but you will work for 10 years) which continued through the 1980s it even is depicted in the karate kid of all places.. and though it all Asians stuck together kept their family values intact and pushed through the same if not worse oppsition than any black person did (again most of you speak english or at least a form of it that can some what be understood) and yet you are still crying about all that was done to people in your past you do not even know! Ie did you get forced into a public home? did you pack those boxes in the 1950s where you so scared about being forced to move into a home with water electricity and plumbing that you could not function in mainstream america?

again before you loose yourself to emotion my point is this: at some point in history persecution real persecution (cross burning, hanging whippings segregation, the real shite they keeps a people down stoped.) and has done a long long time ago. what you endure now is of your own making. it is the same level of resistance that any other race endures and succeeds at. again asian, middle eastern, hindi/real indians, american indians, ALL have faced opposition all extremely successful people working in the highest paying jobs in this country/world. So do some black people but the ration is disproportionate considering the numbers. Again skin color aside and brain capacity all being the same (because anyone who uses race as a crutch as to why they can not ABC is BS) the only primary difference between most black people any all others who repeatedly produce successful members of society, is family, structure, and community. What proves this is successful black people often grow up in a traditional family and OR have one of their own/ they learned the value of family and used it to better their situation and themselves.

Why would you argue there is no need for black people to have traditional families? again this is not a race thing. it is a communal thing. in order for one to be sucessful in a community they must be able to commune with blood.

Yes, there is dysfunction within the Black community, but it is undeniable that the US government has indeed made countless, concerted efforts to prevent Black Americans from advancing n this country. Don't tell me "No" because I've provided several examples of how the US enacted policies that were explicitly designed to dick Black veterans and "good" Black families out of any reasonable shot at achieving the American Dream and cripple Blacks socially and economically for generations to come.

again black do not get an extra layer of hate to work through. if you are not white, you are not white, but the thing is now you do not have to be. what people like you do not understand the new color is green and gold not white. because if you have green and gold it does not matter what color your skin is or your moms skin. black nba and nfl players know this as well as any other successful minority. (Green trumps white)

Cry babies say well the white man won't let me have any green! That's the thing sport go to china go to nigeria go to iraq, NO BODY is giving out green! you have to earn it. if someone gives you any green they want to own your for it. what do you think welfare really is? don't vote dim and your money goes away... so now you vote dim and in order to vote dim you have to think dim which means you have to give up your personal freedoms. ie bill of rights. (but most of you don't know that anyway as you are too busy combing for words to identify people as racists.

So the question is how much of that of dysfunction is result is from a mere lack of moral character and/or trying and how much of it is actually the result of being worn the fuck down by being reviled and feared to such a degree that this country has gone out it's fucking way to take measures ensuring that Blacks would remain a permanent, hated underclass since it's very inception? The world may never know, but I've sure as hell got enough sense to know that all this shit isn't the sole result of not attempting assimilate well enough or having "the unmarried sex".

What I do know is that your argument is absolutely trash, Drich. It's almost entirely based on racist stereotypes and debunked presumptions and is careless and shoddy as fuck.

honestly it is not moral character..

as black people are no more or no less moral than any other people at the start. It is the demise of the family that makes any group different than what mainstream america expects. as america is made up of successful minorities who all face the same problem blacks do in far fewer numbers with far fewer benefits yet come outon top more often than not. and having been part of a family is that key

[Fake Messiah]

Why are you so concerned with what other people do with their genitals?

You ask that as if there is some sound reason. The answer is: because God said it. Christians are not exactly complicated. Why is it evil if two people love each other (lesbians)? Because God says it's evil.

[Athene]

Really? And all of the non-Southern Black families who were essentially forced to move into public housing due to government-sanctioned housing discrimination (or pay the tremendous cost of living in home via contract selling in which they afforded ZERO equity) were experiencing "good times"?

no one was forced into shite. As you so hypocritical pointed out just one post ago blacks are not the only people who are poor. when public housing was first made available it was to the standard of 1950s 1960 family who could afford a home or duplex the sqare footage in the home as well as having modern conveniences to the 1950 and 1960 where shared I know because I worked about 15 years in the projects in and around orlando and most of those project built back then are still in use. No one back then felt like they where down sized into public housing most came from shot gun single room shack with no running water and not electricity. people used still used out houses back then! My dad and his family themselves lived in an old abandon school bus set on the ground with a dirt floor they would have been happy to live in a public housing project, but where the wrong color.
So no, the VAST majority where not forced into anything. they willingly left their shite holes for modern living.

LOLOLOLOL..A few posts back you were arguing that the Blacks married and doing great. Now you're that being BARRED from owning property (while working class Whites were being given the biggest come-up in American history) and having few options other than but public housing was just dandy because Pappy says all the blacks were living in single room shacks anyway.

Goddamn, you're an ignorant MF.

Yet interestingly enough:
It Isn't Just Asian Immigrants Who Excel in the US
African Immigrants More Educated Than Most- Including Those Born in the US
The Most Successful Ethnic Group in the US May Suprise You
Africa is Sending it's Best and Brightest

Are you ever going to learn to start looking shit up before you start posting your thoughts all willy-nilly?

OMG.. IF you where nigerian you would know only 300K total live in this country. you would also know they mostly do not self identify as black/african american. So technically they do not want to be seen as a common black american. most identify as nigerian american, so you should not be so quick to brag about a people who do not want to be considered 'one of you.' (stings a little donit?/Had the same problem growing up mixed Ie yu own people do not want to claim you) That said let look at the number behind your glorious claim that nigerian immigrants are beating asians as far as sending over immigrants with the highest level of education.

Look at my post again. LMFO...At what point do I claim to be Nigerian?
That was a DIRECT RESPONSE to the quote below posted by YOU, and nothing more.

Quote: DRICH SAID, SEEMINGLY OUT OF NOWHERE....
what s also true is blacks in africa are also worse off than blacks in america and if/when the poorest of the poor are thrust into an american society or environment alone they too will fail 10 times out of 11. How ever where the asian succeeds and the african fails is the support structure Asian offer each other because all are seen as apart of the same family.

You brought Africans into the conversation, Bud. And assumed that they fail where Asians succeed, and I simply submitted evidence to contrary. There is a subgroup of Africans (Nigerians) that actually surpasses Asians in academic achievements.
Why that should make you so angry I will never know, but rather than tell an outright LIE and PRETEND that I said things which I clearly didn't, why not just be more mindful in making your assertions?

They're so wrong, so often...

You said I should research more and I did and by doing so took your BS propaganda and fed it back to you with real numbers from a legit site and not some political piece designed to make people like you feel self important.

Again, this is about me. It's about you making unsubstantiated claims based on your love affair to stereotyping and personal biases, rather than taking the time to examine the facts. I'm simply pointing that horrid little tendency of yours out to you.

NOTE; Your research demonstrated and African immigrants in general are doing quite well. 
Do you know what that means?

That your oh-so-confident bigoted assertion that Africans FAIL when immigrating to the US was indeed...a fucking failure.

Jokes's on you, dipshit.   

I see. How fascinating.
Personally, I don't subscribe to the notion of collective guilt in situations such as these. I see no logical reason to feel responsible for the misdeeds of others who simply happen to share the same phenotype as me.

that is why you and people who think like you do fail. fail at what? life political and world power. look at the BS white people do to retain power. they pretend to care about all of the bs black people are angry about and look every election cycle to pretend to apologize for the race of white people.
Look at china. the are a borg collective if there was ever such a thing. their sense of community out does our own to the point they are the true economic world power. they bailed us out of obama era spending. To the point they are a geopolitical and economic force that threatens how western life is lived.

Why am I not surprised that you Borg Collective and a hardline dictatorship as idyllic  communties?
LOL...You are fucking insane.

Though I do have as sense of community, I have no pressing need to become one with Hive.
Nor am I failing, so go figure.

You take this whole submission thing entirely too far, because you're sick.

Now the challenge is name one country on the world stage/meaning it influences how the world is and works without the collective bond collective pride or collective guilt that I was describing to you. Do you self identify with a people or nation outside of the US? if so what do they bring to the world market.

That's only thought-provoking question to basketcases and loons such as yourself.

Yep. I am American, I'm Black, I'm part of the African Diaspora, I'm a Virginian, a member of the families that share my parents' surnames. I don't feel the need to be absorbed and give my entire life over to any of those groups though and pledge my undying blind allegiance in all matters to any one of them though, because I'm not insane. Nor do I need to justify that which I simply am to you.

It is what it is. I am who who I am, and all that I am.

I'm perfectly capable of being more than one thing, so stop trying push your Tragic Hapas woes onto me.
I don't see see shit the way you do and never will.

The point is we are stronger together and that is the whole point behind family verse the individualism that free sex brings.

Jesus Christ.... It's as if you have no conception of 'balance. Individualism is perfectly fine in book, as long as there's respect for the boundaries of others. 
So what if it frightens you?

Sounds like a personal problem.

the only thing busted is your ablity to use logic and reson to have a discussion. you rely on key word fanaticism and racially charging a topic you can not other wise win... [Loosing a discussion? It is ok person of color just put out your race card and all white people will stop speaking...] I'm Not white retard. If blacks can not be considered racist because they are a minority, then know my people are 1/4 of the number yours are. so I am in the minority in this conversation you racist bastard!

You know, there are probably pills you get take for those kinds of outbursts. Talk to your doctor.

I'm aware that you're only half White, Drich. I've seen your 50 year-old racist ass bleating about "Not belonging anywhere! " when you were a kid at least few dozen times on this site, and I've seen pictures that your wife posted.
You present with the phenotype of a rotund, slightly anemic Asian man.

I'll give you a pass on continuing to cling to your "model minority" Asian stereotype, seeing as though you probably hadn't seen the citations I posted that debunk that particular myth when you composed this horseshit.

saw then kicked them in the teeth with true facts and real numbers and identified them as political propoganda

Sure, kitten.
Recognizing that there subgroups of impoverished Asian American who are falling through cracks and trying to figure how best to help them is part of a conspiracy.
 

that is because the political discrimination stuff is utter bullshit past a certain point. 50s 60 70s... ok but things started to change in the 80s ad while blacks where being folding into society Asians where hated by black and white alike for 50 years of war. (how many blacks where taken like loaded into truck like the nazi loaded jews into trains and sent to literal concentration camps during WWII. How many black slaves where they after the civil war? the rail companies where shipping chinese over to build cross country rail way and employed indentured servitude (we will bring you to america but you will work for 10 years) which continued through the 1980s it even is depicted in the karate kid of all places.. and though it all Asians stuck together kept their family values intact and pushed through the same if not worse oppsition than any black person did (again most of you speak english or at least a form of it that can some what be understood) and yet you are still crying about all that was done to people in your past you do not even know! Ie did you get forced into a public home? did you pack those boxes in the 1950s where you so scared about being forced to move into a home with water electricity and plumbing that you could not function in mainstream america?

Well of course you don't think slavery's a big deal. You think it's great stuff: Kind of like being a slave in Heaven to Sexy God , only without the harps.
A slightly out-of-hand frat hazing is probably worse in your mind. 

HOWEVER, I'd actually been discussing the Jim Crow and redlining policies that followed slavery throughout this thread, and I wasn't crying about it. I was informing you that you were oversimplify the issue of poverty among Black Americans by dismissing that they've been singled out for oppression and discrimination by the government from the moment the first Africans were brought to the colonies and for centuries afterwards.

How could that not have an impact?

again before you loose yourself to emotion my point is this: at some point in history persecution real persecution (cross burning, hanging whippings segregation, the real shite they keeps a people down stoped.) and has done a long long time ago. what you endure now is of your own making. it is the same level of resistance that any other race endures and succeeds at. again asian, middle eastern, hindi/real indians, american indians, ALL have faced opposition all extremely successful people working in the highest paying jobs in this country/world. So do some black people but the ration is disproportionate considering the numbers. Again skin color aside and brain capacity all being the same (because anyone who uses race as a crutch as to why they can not ABC is BS) the only primary difference between most black people any all others who repeatedly produce successful members of society, is family, structure, and community. What proves this is successful black people often grow up in a traditional family and OR have one of their own/ they learned the value of family and used it to better their situation and themselves.

Why would you argue there is no need for black people to have traditional families? again this is not a race thing. it is a communal thing. in order for one to be sucessful in a community they must be able to commune with blood.

I already told that I'm not arguing against marriage per se. I arguing against dependency; Whether it's a matter of being depending on government check, baby daddies child support, on the family courts to enforce, or a spouse is the sole or primary breadwinner. I recommend that women to delay motherhood until they are self-sufficient enough to provide for themselves and their offspring if it were necessary.

US divorce rates are too high for me to believe that marriage, especially "traditional' marriages where women are discouraged from seeking employment and building/maintaining skills, offers the best protection against poverty. Yes, traditional marriage is one way for women and children to avoid poverty. However, it also proves to be a poverty-TRAP if things don't go according to specs. 

Women being able to write their own tickets offers the BEST protection against poverty,  so that's what I advocate for above all other solutions.

Yes, there is dysfunction within the Black community, but it is undeniable that the US government has indeed made countless, concerted efforts to prevent Black Americans from advancing n this country. Don't tell me "No" because I've provided several examples of how the US enacted policies that were explicitly designed to dick Black veterans and "good" Black families out of any reasonable shot at achieving the American Dream and cripple Blacks socially and economically for generations to come.

  again black do not get an extra layer of hate to work through. if you are not white, you are not white, but the thing is now you do not have to be. what people like you do not understand the new color is green and gold not white. because if you have green and gold it does not matter what color your skin is or your moms skin. black nba and nfl players know this as well as any other successful minority. (Green trumps white)

Cry babies say well the white man won't let me have any green! That's the thing sport go to china go to nigeria go to iraq, NO BODY is giving out green! you have to earn it. if someone gives you any green they want to own your for it. what do you think welfare really is? don't vote dim and your money goes away... so now you vote dim and in order to vote dim you have to think dim which means you have to give up your personal freedoms. ie bill of rights. (but most of you don't know that anyway as you are too busy combing for words to identify people as racists.

Did you see me demanding more welfare anywhere in this thread. Did I mention party politics even once?
Again, you continue to miss the boat of what I've actually been saying, though I've repeated it multiple times for your slow ass.

Lol....You don't shit about me, or where my political affiliations lie.

I'm not a Dem, you fucking idiot. 

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Maybe you should spend more time obsessing over programs that help families and less time wondering about other people’s dicks, then?

I spent 15 years doing that very thing. every free moment i had was spent in the inner city youth program or as a big brother. a few kids made it out and did indeed become hard working parents. it's heart breaking to see so many with so much potential loose their futures to free sex and addiction. I've been in hundreds of homes spoken with hundreds of single mothers (grandmothers most of the time as mom was absent as well) and thousands of kids in that time. out side of the really tragic raped as a baby or born addicted to crack ect.. the formula was always the same. mom trying to raise several children by her self works all the time or is absent for one reason or another and the kids fend for themselves. Just with the little structure the men in our church brough in just a few days a week made a huge difference and when we did our week long camps with black men from the church the first few days was all gang related nonsense but after two days they all became kids. they all cry everytime they where to go back home. some begged to go home with us... At the end the white men stepped in.. as a result it took longer for the kids to come down from their neighborhood self imposed divisions, but again by the end of the week no one wanted to go home and everyone was in tears. Then the last two years it was me and my best friend who flew in from DC (he is a black man studying to be a doctor of child phycology at the time, this program effected him so much it help him to decide what to do with the rest of his life.) we where the senior counselors and the rest where made up of high school kids from our youth program. Again the same result kids begging to stay longer and pleading not to go home.. because with in a day they where all sucked back into hood life again.. fighting stealing doing whatever to survive.

The point is out side help is only that... it is help it can never replace the support and structure built into a family. a family a mother and a father must choose to provide in sick ness and in health in poorness and is wealth till death they do part.

So how can people know the importance of family when pop culture says it is out dated and not important and up holds those who live a free sex life? Unless someone who knows and has experienced what a broken home does on a mass scale speaks up when the subject is challenged.