RE: Why does there need to be a God?
July 20, 2019 at 6:37 pm
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: And if God is not how you understand him to be?
For starters, what is god if he is not susceptable to any understanding?
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: what if God is not a superhero?
Then you are worshipping some randon bloke. Which is rather odd.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: does the foundation or meaning of God change your logic?
Nope. You are now at the point of claiming that there is some bloke in the pub, therefore god. That will not wash.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: or are you one who comes to the conclusion first and simply dismisses everything that conflicts with what you want to believe?
Well no. We are not like you. We rely on evidence. You know, the thing you have none of.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Because if YOU stupided anything enough you would see the logical error in that way of thinking. meaning if God is not who you think he is and all of your reasoning listed is based on a superhero God Then when you find out you have been mistaken and God was not meant to be seen oer understood as a super hero THAT SHOULD give a thinking rational person pause and demand a reevaluation at the very least on who God is.
Skimming the incoherent spelling screw-ups, you are claiming that your god is not all powerful all knowing, all present. Once again your god is therefore just some bloke. Why should anyone care about some bloke?
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Is you mind open to reason or again have you already decided that God must be a super hero?{/quote]I will happily accept any god that has at least evidence. Yours has none.
[quote='Drich' pid='1920095' dateline='1563466342']What if bronze age mean could not describe or knew a difference between the supernatural and technology, would technology be described in a mechanical process or would it be described as miraculous?
You might want to reconsider such a tatty argument.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Put a bronze ago man in an elevator at the bottom floor of the freedom tower and then let him ride to the top, how would he describe the process. Would he describe how an elevator works or would be be teleported? Hell do you even know how an elevator works?
Who cares? One could explain the easily understood mechanics, of one could go with your preferred route and claim magic.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: To him and people like him is his description wrong? To someone in the know is what he saying wrong? No it is simply put all he can faithfuly describe.
Nope. It is a result of your lies.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Now what if God is not all magic and superhero stuff?
the god is not actually a god.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: What if Science took a look at God what would it say to try and minimize His being and authority? If God showed up and let our best douche bag egg head science examine him, they would probable describe or identify a trans dimensional being who can by some neural link access a form of technology that can manipulate matter.
And now you are inventing crap out of whole cloth.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: So if God where a "alien" or a being from a place with out space or time as we understand it but science could indeed quantify it, would it change what you think of God.. Keeping in mind he did create this world and everything in it but not as a way of magic but in such a way that natural laws would indeed support suc a creation?
Sure. If and when it happens.
It has not yet happened. There is no expectation that it will happen.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Again by definition this still makes him God/Creator.
Nope.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Then let's say this world he is from is from his perspective is the "real world" and we already exist in the real world with him but we are all subdued and plugged into this world via pandora or the matrix style. What you think is real is only inputs experienced through an avatar of sorts. and when you die you wake up from this matrix.. learning that this whole life was to discern where your heart's loyalties lie. with the creator or with a destroyer who wants to use humanity like a virus and over populate deplete and pollute all of creation into a hell like realm.
Yay. Horseshit. Good for cultivating roses and little else.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Now what of those who do not want to live in a hell like destroyed realm should they be kept seperate from those who want to live however they see fit?
What about them? If they want to live a delusion, let them. They do not get the right to impose that on anyone but themselves.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Again, perception, understanding and the ablity to communicate on a level equal to or greater than your target audience is the only difference between a magic super hero God who time ad again proven not to exist and a God and world you consider to be plausible.
I have yet to find any deity who is remotely plausible. Not yours, not anyones.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: AS and "advanced' person it is on you to look past what a bronze age man can fathom but not exceed the limitation written as absolutes. in that grey area you will find God if you simply Ask, seek and knock for Him.
But your god is a bronze age superstion built on previous superstitions. I find nothing compelling or convincing it that superstition. If anything, you have comprehensively convinced me that some believers are abject morons and revel in it, insulting others more intelligent that they. That is not a good look
"So why does there need to be a God?"
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Short answer.. Nothing happenes without one.
That is a direct claim. Can you prove nothing happens without a deity? Of course not. Stop wasting peoples time.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Again in your small mind try and separate the word God from magic super hero. Use the word like the Japanese use the word.. God-zilla Is not the God of lizards It is from two word one being the transliteration of the word gorilla meaning huge. now this prefix word simply means a tremendous or huge it can be pair with other words to describe a super sized version or strong force. The word Kami describes more of a traditional deity being.
That whole para is stupidly irrational.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: In this sense "God" can still mean the deity who has first and final authority over all, it can also be used to describe the force that just shite everything into being with a bang.
The "big bang" is not your cartoon version of it. Stop lying about it. It makes you seem even dumber.
(July 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: So why must there be a God because 'god' is the word we use to describe the deity or force that created it all. it is the supreme power and authoror of time and space as we know it..
No. It is not. That is a flat out lie.