(July 12, 2019 at 1:34 am)Godscreated Wrote:   Now I have a question for you, what happens to you when you die, being an atheist? 

GC

What probably happens is the same thing that was happening before "I" was born.

GC, how can anyone know what happens when we die

Are we playing word games again or maybe you don't really understand what the word "die" means?

(July 12, 2019 at 2:43 am)ignoramus Wrote: GC, how can anyone know what happens when we die

Are we playing word games again or maybe you don't really understand what the word "die" means?

  The question was a simple one, so what happens, do you become a part of nature, the cosmos or what?

GC

(July 14, 2019 at 5:28 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 12, 2019 at 2:43 am)ignoramus Wrote: GC, how can anyone know what happens when we die

Are we playing word games again or maybe you don't really understand what the word "die" means?

  The question was a simple one, so what happens, do you become a part of nature, the cosmos or what?

GC

That which makes me 'me' (my memories and experiences) will no longer exist. 

As for the physical 'me', I'm not sure what you mean.  I'm already part of nature.  My body will decompose and all of my constituent bits and bobs will break down into their elemental forms and become available for use by the biosphere.

Boru

It’s a simple question with a simple answer. The same thing that happens to any Christian, to anyone. That’s what’s going to happen when I die. Silly vulture.

And if God is not how you understand him to be? what if God is not a superhero? does the foundation or meaning of God change your logic? or are you one who comes to the conclusion first and simply dismisses everything that conflicts with what you want to believe?

Because if YOU stupided anything enough you would see the logical error in that way of thinking. meaning if God is not who you think he is and all of your reasoning listed is based on a superhero God Then when you find out you have been mistaken and God was not meant to be seen oer understood as a super hero THAT SHOULD give a thinking rational person pause and demand a reevaluation at the very least on who God is.

Is you mind open to reason or again have you already decided that God must be a super hero?

What if bronze age mean could not describe or knew a difference between the supernatural and technology, would technology be described in a mechanical process or would it be described as miraculous?

Put a bronze ago man in an elevator at the bottom floor of the freedom tower and then let him ride to the top, how would he describe the process. Would he describe how an elevator works or would be be teleported? Hell do you even know how an elevator works?

To him and people like him is his description wrong? To someone in the know is what he saying wrong? No it is simply put all he can faithfuly describe.

Now what if God is not all magic and superhero stuff?

What if Science took a look at God what would it say to try and minimize His being and authority? If God showed up and let our best douche bag egg head science examine him, they would probable describe or identify a trans dimensional being who can by some neural link access a form of technology that can manipulate matter.

So if God where a "alien" or a being from a place with out space or time as we understand it but science could indeed quantify it, would it change what you think of God.. Keeping in mind he did create this world and everything in it but not as a way of magic but in such a way that natural laws would indeed support suc a creation?

Again by definition this still makes him God/Creator.

Then let's say this world he is from is from his perspective is the "real world" and we already exist in the real world with him but we are all subdued and plugged into this world via pandora or the matrix style. What you think is real is only inputs experienced through an avatar of sorts. and when you die you wake up from this matrix.. learning that this whole life was to discern where your heart's loyalties lie. with the creator or with a destroyer who wants to use humanity like a virus and over populate deplete and pollute all of creation into a hell like realm.

Now what of those who do not want to live in a hell like destroyed realm should they be kept seperate from those who want to live however they see fit?

Again, perception, understanding and the ablity to communicate on a level equal to or greater than your target audience is the only difference between a magic super hero God who time ad again proven not to exist and a God and world you consider to be plausible.

AS and "advanced' person it is on you to look past what a bronze age man can fathom but not exceed the limitation written as absolutes. in that grey area you will find God if you simply Ask, seek and knock for Him.

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So why does there need to be a God?
Short answer.. Nothing happenes without one.

Again in your small mind try and separate the word God from magic super hero. Use the word like the Japanese use the word.. God-zilla Is not the God of lizards It is from two word one being the transliteration of the word gorilla meaning huge. now this prefix word simply means a tremendous or huge it can be pair with other words to describe a super sized version or strong force. The word Kami describes more of a traditional deity being.

In this sense "God" can still mean the deity who has first and final authority over all, it can also be used to describe the force that just shite everything into being with a bang.

So why must there be a God because 'god' is the word we use to describe the deity or force that created it all. it is the supreme power and authoror of time and space as we know it..

"So why does there need to be a God?
Short answer.. Nothing happenes without one."

So how did god happen?
Is there some "super god" that made god happen?

I want to know more about the ultra god that made the supergod happen.

(July 18, 2019 at 3:44 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I want to know more about the ultra god that made the supergod happen.

By day he’s a mild mannered celestial trillionaire.

But at night, he dons a mask and cape and becomes, “Ultra God”, the creator of creators.

You may know him as Clark Wayne.

Why does there need to be a God? There doesn't need to be.

Without catching up on the thread, I'm assuming it's moved on to what use is there in believing in God, or are we waxing the nihilistic pud?
We all need a "god" which is something that promises us something, and it behooves us to serve that god. If life tends towards being more complex and can be more ordered, purpose is a driver for growth. Working towards a goal implies that it is attainable and develops competence and achievement. It also staves off psychological discord.