Why does God get the credit?

[The Valkyrie]

AtlasS33God is the one who willed it and made it possible. Let me give you an example:

You are an engineer in the example. You built a skyscraper, you designed every inch and made sure the floors don't collapse. After that people lived in it for years and years.

If you want to be fair; they owe their safe living in the building to you, you are the first one deserving the thanks since you are the master architect that built a huge skyscraper that is safe.

Reflect the example on God. He created the whole universe according to the faith of theists. According to our faith; he so deserves the thanks.

But, if god wanted me to get into medicine, why did I spend years and tens of thousands of dollars at med school?

He didn't choose for you. But he made the choice possible; and made it possible for you to choose and decide.

Made it possible for me?

According to most Abrahamic scriptures, my place is solely in the home, not being seen by anyone apart from my immediate family.

It’s only the evolution of modern society that has allowed women to go out and have independent careers of their own (in Western societies, anyway).

Why would I give credit to god for my skills, my opportunities, and my work?

Surely my thanks should go to generations of pioneering women before me who said “no”, and the many men who supported them?

[Amarok]

He didn't choose for you. But he made the choice possible; and made it possible for you to choose and decide.

Choosing to give us choice is still choosing for us .

[WinterHold]

He didn't choose for you. But he made the choice possible; and made it possible for you to choose and decide.

Made it possible for me?

According to most Abrahamic scriptures, my place is solely in the home, not being seen by anyone apart from my immediate family.

It’s only the evolution of modern society that has allowed women to go out and have independent careers of their own (in Western societies, anyway).

Why would I give credit to god for my skills, my opportunities, and my work?

Surely my thanks should go to generations of pioneering women before me who said “no”, and the many men who supported them?

I would clear Islam from the list of scriptures that ask women to stay home, the only women who were ordered to remain home are the wives of the prophet; and when he died one of them led a whole army into the what became known as the Battle of the Camel:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Camel

You are speaking about the European church's brutal Christian laws against women; the case was very different for Islam. Many of the rights women have today were practiced for generations in Islamic land, one famous right is the right for women to inherit, also the right for women to own and be free, testify and do business.

[AFTT47]

When I was a mere student I was working in an A&E in Melbourne when a teenager was brought in from a car wreck with serious head injuries.

He was in surgery for hours and a neurosurgeon returned from holiday to help out (luckily he was still in the city).

They saved his life and I saw an interview being done for the local news by his parents, “We give thanks to god for this miracle!”

No mention of the highly trained medical professionals.

Just “thank god.”

That's exactly the thing that drove me to be active in forums like this one.

You've probably heard of "Magic" Johnson, a famous basketball player for the Los Angeles Lakers. He became one of the highest-profile Americans to contract the HIV virus in the early 1990s - when that was still a death sentence. He was one of the early users of the protease inhibitors which came out in the mid 1990s which effectively neutralized HIV. As was typical of early users, the drug dropped his blood level of HIV to undetectable levels. His response: "I give all the glory to God."

It pissed me off to no end that he didn't reserve even a little of the "glory" for the real-life men and women who did the R & D to develop the drugs that saved his sorry ass. He is alive and kicking today because of the application of science. But the stupid fuck credits, "God."

I think that kind of thing is a big deal. It's important that people recognize where their benefits are coming from so that they may support it. It's very detrimental if people fail to recognize they are benefiting from science and instead believe they are benefiting from a non-existent god.

[Anomalocaris]

Made it possible for me?

According to most Abrahamic scriptures, my place is solely in the home, not being seen by anyone apart from my immediate family.

It’s only the evolution of modern society that has allowed women to go out and have independent careers of their own (in Western societies, anyway).

Why would I give credit to god for my skills, my opportunities, and my work?

Surely my thanks should go to generations of pioneering women before me who said “no”, and the many men who supported them?

I would clear Islam from the list of scriptures that ask women to stay home, the only women who were ordered to remain home are the wives of the prophet; and when he died one of them led a whole army into the what became known as the Battle of the Camel:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Camel

You are speaking about the European church's brutal Christian laws against women; the case was very different for Islam. Many of the rights women have today were practiced for generations in Islamic land, one famous right is the right for women to inherit, also the right for women to own and be free, testify and do business.

[Cod]

God is the one who willed it and made it possible. Let me give you an example:

You are an engineer in the example. You built a skyscraper, you designed every inch and made sure the floors don't collapse. After that people lived in it for years and years.

If you want to be fair; they owe their safe living in the building to you, you are the first one deserving the thanks since you are the master architect that built a huge skyscraper that is safe.

Reflect the example on God. He created the whole universe according to the faith of theists. According to our faith; he so deserves the thanks.

I'm surprised you came up with skyscrapers as an example. You do have a warped sense of humour Atlas.

[Amarok]

God is the one who willed it and made it possible. Let me give you an example:

You are an engineer in the example. You built a skyscraper, you designed every inch and made sure the floors don't collapse. After that people lived in it for years and years.

If you want to be fair; they owe their safe living in the building to you, you are the first one deserving the thanks since you are the master architect that built a huge skyscraper that is safe.

Reflect the example on God. He created the whole universe according to the faith of theists. According to our faith; he so deserves the thanks.

They don't owe the engineer shit .He was paid to do a job or he loved doing it or both . But none the less no one owes him anything let alone agreeing to be his bitches for eternity. If the engineer suddenly proclaimed we should worship him because he built a building we would tell him to go fuck himself .

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Reflect the example on God. He created the whole universe according to the faith of theists. According to our faith; he so deserves the thanks.

You're right, of course.  I should be on my knees thanking almighty God each and every day for AIDS, SARS, birth defects, too many cancers to list, malnutrition, starvation, cholera, small pox, polio, heavy metal poisoning, and radiation sickness.  Not to mention the thousands of people who die every day from want, neglect, war, natural disasters, accidents, envenomations, and so on.

It can't be any clearer that God loves us.  I feel a complete fool.

Boru

[Godscreated]

Reflect the example on God. He created the whole universe according to the faith of theists. According to our faith; he so deserves the thanks.

You're right, of course.  I should be on my knees thanking almighty God each and every day for AIDS, SARS, birth defects, too many cancers to list, malnutrition, starvation, cholera, small pox, polio, heavy metal poisoning, and radiation sickness.  Not to mention the thousands of people who die every day from want, neglect, war, natural disasters, accidents, envenomations, and so on.

It can't be any clearer that God loves us.  I feel a complete fool.

Boru

 You should feel the fool for a statement like that, you've argued with Christians enough to know all that you listed is a result of man's sin. God shows his love for us by giving people the brains to be doctors, engineers and ect. I do not have the brain that would allow me to accomplish those things, my abilities lay else where. I am grateful that those people chose to become doctors and engineers and I'm grateful that God gave them the brain it took to do those things. So yes God deserves to receive thanks and so do the people who help us with our difficulties and other things of necessity. The thing I find interesting in the OP is everyone assumed the person was a Christian. Many times I've heard people who do not believe use the same phrase. If you are going to argue over something certain grounds need to be established or you might be wasting your time and energy on something as silly as a spoken phrase that could have meant nothing to the person who stated it, she didn't even mention God according to the OP so all was assumed.

GC

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

You're right, of course.  I should be on my knees thanking almighty God each and every day for AIDS, SARS, birth defects, too many cancers to list, malnutrition, starvation, cholera, small pox, polio, heavy metal poisoning, and radiation sickness.  Not to mention the thousands of people who die every day from want, neglect, war, natural disasters, accidents, envenomations, and so on.

It can't be any clearer that God loves us.  I feel a complete fool.

Boru

 You should feel the fool for a statement like that, you've argued with Christians enough to know all that you listed is a result of man's sin. God shows his love for us by giving people the brains to be doctors, engineers and ect. I do not have the brain that would allow me to accomplish those things, my abilities lay else where. I am grateful that those people chose to become doctors and engineers and I'm grateful that God gave them the brain it took to do those things. So yes God deserves to receive thanks and so do the people who help us with our difficulties and other things of necessity. The thing I find interesting in the OP is everyone assumed the person was a Christian. Many times I've heard people who do not believe use the same phrase. If you are going to argue over something certain grounds need to be established or you might be wasting your time and energy on something as silly as a spoken phrase that could have meant nothing to the person who stated it, she didn't even mention God according to the OP so all was assumed.

GC

Giving thanks to God for supplying humanity with doctor and engineers is a lot like being grateful to the man who sells you a bandage after he stabs you with a knife.

Boru