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El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
(August 7, 2019 at 7:32 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(August 7, 2019 at 5:54 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Kind of what I said, mate.

Boru

I was pointing out that men can wear suspenders without going all lumberjack.

Unless the lumberjack in the video is wearing thigh-high socks, he's wearing the girlie type of suspenders.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
(August 7, 2019 at 7:38 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 7, 2019 at 7:32 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I was pointing out that men can wear suspenders without going all lumberjack.

Unless the lumberjack in the video is wearing thigh-high socks, he's wearing the girlie type of suspenders.

Boru

We're in different rooms.
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RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
How very cryptic of you.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
(August 6, 2019 at 7:43 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Rename the forum "Thunderdome"?

"two men enter" what a porn film that was....



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

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RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
(August 8, 2019 at 8:11 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: How very cryptic of you.

Boru

Not all that cryptic. Read
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RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
As if on cue, Bill Clinton is back peddling the lie that the assault weapons ban worked.

This is a particularly dangerous lie, because the kernel of truth it’s built upon is that it could have. In final analysis we know exactly why we couldn’t credit it for effect. Why it didn’t.

The grandfathering of the law and the massive amount of pre-existing firearms. Additionally, any potential gains were offset by increases in the use of other firearms.

There was no mechanism in place to significantly reduce the firearms in circulation and so, even though the ban lasted for quite some time, it was more-than-half expected that it would expire before any gains could be realized.

This surplus, more than anything else, accounts for why strategies to reduce gun violence, working elsewhere, fail here.

-any gun control policy that doesn’t involve a massive federal buyback is effectively doomed to failure in the us.

-any gun control policy that fails to simultaneously target firearms through trace data will bleed whatever effect the ban, and the above, could conceivably have.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
(August 8, 2019 at 4:25 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: As if on cue, Bill Clinton is back peddling the lie that the assault weapons ban worked.

This is a particularly dangerous lie, because the kernel of truth it’s built upon is that it could have.   In final analysis we know exactly why we couldn’t credit it for effect.  Why it didn’t.

The grandfathering of the law and the massive amount of pre-existing firearms.  Additionally, any potential gains were offset by increases in the use of other firearms.  

There was no mechanism in place to significantly reduce the firearms in circulation and so, even though the ban lasted for quite some time, it was more-than-half expected that it would expire before any gains could be realized.

This surplus, more than anything else, accounts for why strategies to reduce gun violence, working elsewhere, fail here.

-any gun control policy that doesn’t involve a massive federal buyback is effectively doomed to failure in the us.

-any gun control policy that fails to simultaneously target firearms through trace data will bleed whatever effect the ban, and the above, could conceivably have.

The Clinton ban was about aesthetics - not function.

It did diddley squat.
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RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
Exactly, and we know why.....so- if we’re headed for a ban ( you know we are, lol)......we should take care to learn from those mistakes.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
Quote:The Clinton ban was about aesthetics - not function.

It did diddley squat.
Like all your gun nut solutions
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
Clearly, getting rid of assault-styled weapons isn't the answer.  Banning large capacity magazines isn't the answer, either.  And I really doubt that getting rid of gizmos like bump stocks and silencers is going to solve anything.

BUT - sensible gun regulation coupled with better access to mental health care, better background checks, 'red-flags', and getting police to take reported warning signs more seriously can only help.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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