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Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 6:05 pm

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 6:06 pm (This post was last modified: August 5, 2019 at 6:10 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
The general gripe isn’t about any of that, Grand. It’s the notion that the actual experience of “seeing red” is additional to sense perception and response. That there is no evolutionary explanation for the function of
Qualia.

Built atop this misapprehension is yet another misapprehension. The notion that modern synth somehow gets it wrong ( or doesn’t have an explanation for) how there could be developmental delays between the qualia system, the brain, and the sensory system, the eye.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 6:07 pm
(August 5, 2019 at 5:38 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Modern synth doesn’t claim to explain life on earth, and is the unifying theory of biology, SOG.

Do you have some explanation for why you got that line of criticism less than wrong?
If we were playing a creationist drinking game we’d be sloppy drunk by now.

Do you worry about having joined a creationist cult, John?

If John was a Christian of the more liberal variety, he’d likely be a member of the, “god popped us all into existence and then let billions of years of natural processes do their work” camp. But, if that were the case, then he probably wouldn’t have such a stick up his butt about the human eye. These guys think they’re so stealthy, lol.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 6:09 pm (This post was last modified: August 5, 2019 at 6:10 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
(August 5, 2019 at 6:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(August 5, 2019 at 5:38 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Modern synth doesn’t claim to explain life on earth, and is the unifying theory of biology, SOG.

Do you have some explanation for why you got that line of criticism less than wrong?
If we were playing a creationist drinking game we’d be sloppy drunk by now.

Do you worry about having joined a creationist cult, John?

If John was a Christian of the more liberal variety, he’d likely be a member of the, “god popped us all into existence and then let billions of years of natural processes do their work” camp. But, if that were the case, then he probably wouldn’t have such a stick up his butt about the human eye. These guys think they’re so stealthy, lol.

I'm not a Christian though. I left that childish, iron-age (dare I saw stone-age?) religion, a whole five minutes ago.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 6:11 pm
(August 5, 2019 at 6:09 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(August 5, 2019 at 6:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: If John was a Christian of the more liberal variety, he’d likely be a member of the, “god popped us all into existence and then let billions of years of natural processes do their work” camp. But, if that were the case, then he probably wouldn’t have such a stick up his butt about the human eye. These guys think they’re so stealthy, lol.

I'm not a Christian though. I left that childish, iron-age (dare I saw stone-age?) religion, a whole five minutes ago.

False flags are false.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 6:11 pm
That’s nice, but you’re still wrong about the explanations that evolutionary theory possesses. Leaving your religion won’t change that.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 6:12 pm
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 6:13 pm (This post was last modified: August 5, 2019 at 6:15 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
(August 5, 2019 at 6:11 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: That’s nice, but you’re still wrong about the explanations that evolutionary theory possesses.  Leaving your religion won’t change that.

Good, I expect nothing less.
(August 5, 2019 at 6:12 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(August 5, 2019 at 6:09 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I'm not a Christian though. I left that childish, iron-age (dare I saw stone-age?) religion, a whole five minutes ago.

Oh right, I'll fix the label. Thanks.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 6:15 pm (This post was last modified: August 5, 2019 at 6:15 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Is it still important to you that gaps be filled, and is it still important to you that your own position can fill those gaps, and do those filled gaps still strike you as important...or did that also disappear with a belief in Christ?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 6:16 pm (This post was last modified: August 5, 2019 at 6:17 pm by GrandizerII.)
(August 5, 2019 at 6:09 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(August 5, 2019 at 6:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: If John was a Christian of the more liberal variety, he’d likely be a member of the, “god popped us all into existence and then let billions of years of natural processes do their work” camp. But, if that were the case, then he probably wouldn’t have such a stick up his butt about the human eye. These guys think they’re so stealthy, lol.

I'm not a Christian though. I left that childish, iron-age (dare I saw stone-age?) religion, a whole five minutes ago.

This sounds to me like trolling.

But then again, chimp (who seems to know him quite well) reckons he's legit.
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